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Old Jan 24, 2009, 06:23 PM
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Oppose Federal Vehicle Scrappage Program

Oppose Federal Vehicle Scrappage Program

Our efforts to prevent Congress from including a nationwide “Cash for Clunkers” program in the economic stimulus package has been successful – so far. Thousands of SEMA Action Network (SAN) enthusiasts and SEMA members contacted House Speaker Nancy Pelosi in opposition to the plan. The Speaker’s Office informed us that your emails, calls and faxes were received and, thanks to your work, Cash for Clunkers was not included in the economic stimulus package introduced in mid-January in the House of Representatives. Unfortunately, new legislation (S. 247 and H.R. 520) has been introduced in Congress to create a national vehicle scrappage program which will give U.S. tax dollars to consumers who turn-in their “gas guzzlers” to have them crushed. Lawmakers need to scrap this idea!

Contact Senator Diane Feinstein (D-CA) and Rep. Henry Waxman (D-CA) Immediately
to Oppose S. 247 and H.R. 520

The so-called “Accelerated Retirement of Inefficient Vehicles Act” is Cash for Clunkers with a twist. Instead of focusing exclusively on older cars, this program would target vehicles with low fuel economy ratings of any model year. Participants would receive cash vouchers ranging from $2,500 to $4,500 based on the model year and whether the replacement vehicle was a more fuel-efficient new car or used car (MY 2004 or later). Fuel-efficient is defined as getting at least 25 percent better mileage for the corporate average fuel economy (CAFE) target for its class. The bill sponsors want to scrap up to one million cars a year for at least four years.

There is no evidence that the program would achieve the goal of boosting new car sales or increasing fuel mileage. Many states have considered scrappage programs in the past as a way to help clean the air or increase mpg, but abandoned the effort because they simply don’t work. The programs are not cost-effective and do not achieve verifiable air quality or fuel economy benefits, but they do have a devastating impact on the many small businesses that market products and services for the scrapped cars.

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Don’t Delay! Please contact Senator Diane Feinstein and Rep. Henry Waxman today to urge their opposition to S. 247 and H.R. 520. For those who responded to our first call for action, we need you again, along with everyone else.

Contact Sen. Diane Feinstein to oppose S. 247
• Click here to send an email: (http://feinstein.senate.gov/public/i...tactUs.EmailMe)
• Call: (202) 224-3841
• Fax: (202) 228-3954

Contact Henry Waxman to oppose HR 520
• Click here to send an email: (http://energycommerce.house.gov/inde...=1313&Itemid=1)
• Call: (202) 225-2927
• Fax: (202) 225-2525

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Oppose the Use of U.S. Taxpayer Dollars for Accelerated Vehicle Retirement

I am writing to urge lawmakers not to approve an “accelerated vehicle retirement” program. This is a misguided attempt to spur car sales and claim that the country’s fleet fuel mileage is being improved.


An accelerated vehicle retirement program is flawed since it does not target the “gross polluter,” an improperly maintained vehicle of any make or model year that has poor fuel mileage and dramatically more emissions due to poor maintenance.


An accelerated vehicle retirement program is flawed because it does not factor-in how many miles-a-year the collected vehicles are currently being driven. U.S. taxpayers will be buying rarely-driven second and third vehicles that have minimal impact on overall fuel economy and air pollution.


Any vehicle scrappage program threatens enthusiasts nationwide with the loss of valuable parts and parts-cars for repair, restoration, and customization projects. An accelerated retirement program will reduce the availability of affordable transportation and repair parts used by low-income drivers. It will also compete with the Salvation Army, the Purple Heart and other charities that rely on vehicle donations to raise money.


Accelerated vehicle retirement is just one of several “Cash for Clunkers” programs that has been proposed in Congress. The government should just focus on providing a tax incentive to help sell more fuel-efficient, cleaner cars – new or used. The government should not become a player in the vehicle scrappage/recycling industry. We have professionals that have been doing that job very well for the past 100 years.


We hope we can count on you to reject “Accelerated Vehicle Retirement.” Thank you for your consideration on this very important matter.
Please send a copy of your message to Sen. Feinstein and Rep. Waxman to briand@sema.org.
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now thats a crock of ****. its not in my home town but ill read and prolly sign.
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This miserable liberal witch

I would like to strap her into my Evo passenger seat and let her see what cars are made for

Thank you for sending me your electronic mail message. I appreciate your taking
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Because of the volume of e-mail that is received by my office, we can only
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Thank you again for contacting me, and I hope you will continue to do so in the
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Sincerely,

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its great to have a lawyer in the evom family tht can back us up,,,, AL
Old Jan 25, 2009, 10:13 AM
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Originally Posted by apagan01
its great to have a lawyer in the evom family tht can back us up,,,, AL
Its a loosing battle

The writing is on the wall

They - Barak Obama and CO - are going to crack down on high performance

They want everyone to drive cars that get 50 plus mpg

The performance wars are over - you'll see
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Looks like it's the early-mid 1970s all over again.
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Big government is going to take over every aspect of our lives.This country will be just like Cuba,Venezuela and all the other socialists country's where government babysits everyone and they know whats better for you.Bigger government means more POWER for those in charge (Dems).

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Originally Posted by DynoFlash
This miserable liberal witch

I would like to strap her into my Evo passenger seat and let her see what cars are made for
I'm with you 100%
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The idea behind this is environmentally sound. By removing the excess cars in the world we'll free up tremendous metallurgical resources through recycling. It will create a new, government funded (initially) industry, providing new jobs. It will promote development of alternative fuel engines, helping to slow the destruction of our planets atmosphere. And the best part is that no one is required to turn in their car. The popular support for, and revenue generated (taxable revenue) by the motor sport industry will ensure it's continuation. Stop fearing change, we changed from walking to riding horses, from that to trains, cars and planes. This is just the next phase and this program is seeking to facilitate that.

If none of this helps to bring you around, remember: Evo's run better on e-85 anyway.
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Originally Posted by vicksen
The idea behind this is environmentally sound. By removing the excess cars in the world we'll free up tremendous metallurgical resources through recycling. It will create a new, government funded (initially) industry, providing new jobs. It will promote development of alternative fuel engines, helping to slow the destruction of our planets atmosphere. And the best part is that no one is required to turn in their car. The popular support for, and revenue generated (taxable revenue) by the motor sport industry will ensure it's continuation. Stop fearing change, we changed from walking to riding horses, from that to trains, cars and planes. This is just the next phase and this program is seeking to facilitate that.

If none of this helps to bring you around, remember: Evo's run better on e-85 anyway.
Another one of the global warming kool aid drinkers.
Your living in a fantasy world.

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Originally Posted by ak47po
Another one of the global warming kool aid drinkers.
Your living in a fantasy world.
Right right, I'm also fond of granola. Seriously though, if the majority of life on this planet ceases to exist as a result of desertification, which is the direction were headed unless simple things are changed, how are you going to enjoy your car?
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I don't fully understand what the program is? How would it work? I don't understand how they can stop us from owning a certain car?

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Originally Posted by vicksen
The idea behind this is environmentally sound. By removing the excess cars in the world we'll free up tremendous metallurgical resources through recycling. It will create a new, government funded (initially) industry, providing new jobs. It will promote development of alternative fuel engines, helping to slow the destruction of our planets atmosphere. And the best part is that no one is required to turn in their car. The popular support for, and revenue generated (taxable revenue) by the motor sport industry will ensure it's continuation. Stop fearing change, we changed from walking to riding horses, from that to trains, cars and planes. This is just the next phase and this program is seeking to facilitate that.

If none of this helps to bring you around, remember: Evo's run better on e-85 anyway.

The intent to get clunckers off the road is a front for getting to everyone else so we can all become tree huggers like our West coast friends. So if you think this is such a great idea when are you collecting your 4500.00 for your evo? You picked out your electric car yet?...Ohh, yeah--another great idea, except you forgot you didnt want to build power plants so you can't charge them...Now what, let me see, alternative fuels-- so we take feed and make gas...so that means less feed for cattle, so the price of beef and milk goes up...wow another great idea that impacts eveyone in the wrong way. We all pay higher prices for beef.. but I guess with less cattle you get less "natural gas" the real polluter from cattle and so I guess you get your clean environment.. Keep drinking the liberal swill and just remember the more you are giving up the more they will take. Speaking of drinking, you wont be able to have that beer either...prices went up on that with the increase in demand for grain...for fuel.

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Originally Posted by vicksen
The idea behind this is environmentally sound. By removing the excess cars in the world we'll free up tremendous metallurgical resources through recycling. It will create a new, government funded (initially) industry, providing new jobs. It will promote development of alternative fuel engines, helping to slow the destruction of our planets atmosphere. And the best part is that no one is required to turn in their car. The popular support for, and revenue generated (taxable revenue) by the motor sport industry will ensure it's continuation. Stop fearing change, we changed from walking to riding horses, from that to trains, cars and planes. This is just the next phase and this program is seeking to facilitate that.

If none of this helps to bring you around, remember: Evo's run better on e-85 anyway.
If you had your way we'd be walking and riding horses again, as to not hurt the precious mother earth, no mater what engines will need a way to make energy, be it in the form of oil, natural gas, ect. if everyone went home today and plugged there electric car into the socket we would have to build 1000's more powerplants to provide the extra energy. and since people like you are also opposed to nuclear energy that means more dirty coal and oil burning plants.
as to E-85 if it wasnt receiving money from the goverment to keep the price low it would be 5+ dollars a gal.
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Originally Posted by vicksen
The idea behind this is environmentally sound. By removing the excess cars in the world we'll free up tremendous metallurgical resources through recycling. It will create a new, government funded (initially) industry, providing new jobs. It will promote development of alternative fuel engines, helping to slow the destruction of our planets atmosphere. And the best part is that no one is required to turn in their car. The popular support for, and revenue generated (taxable revenue) by the motor sport industry will ensure it's continuation. Stop fearing change, we changed from walking to riding horses, from that to trains, cars and planes. This is just the next phase and this program is seeking to facilitate that.

If none of this helps to bring you around, remember: Evo's run better on e-85 anyway.
What a shame

When I first got started in cars I bought a very used '66 Corvair Convertable 4 speed 140.

What a shame if they had legislation like this and that car had been destroyed before I ever got to drive it around and learn all about how to fix cars

In Japan they have similar rules that require then to cut perfectly good cars in half after a certain amount of miles so they can sell more new cars

The evil bastards who are behind this bill seek to rid us of our hertatige and culture of having old cars around to fix up and enjoy

The end is near for life as we once knew it

Al


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