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Old Oct 22, 2008 | 12:43 PM
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Originally Posted by mplspilot
I'm hoping to become one of those ppl soon

I wouldn't trust a sales rep when it comes to ethanol content in E85 blends... or anything for that matter. It would be nice of course.. but i highly doubt it.. if you verified it with a gauge, that'd be another story..

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Yea I agree. I have that chart as well and I did bring it up. He said currently it does not change mix. He said once more stations open in possible colder climates in California that might change. Most of California does not get below 40-50*

Speaking of ethanol content gauges, where is the best place to get these things now?
Old Oct 23, 2008 | 12:54 AM
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patience...
Old Oct 23, 2008 | 10:17 AM
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Originally Posted by razorlab
Yea I agree. I have that chart as well and I did bring it up. He said currently it does not change mix. He said once more stations open in possible colder climates in California that might change. Most of California does not get below 40-50*

Speaking of ethanol content gauges, where is the best place to get these things now?
When it comes to gauges, i only know about the ones Merkzu sells:
https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/sh...d.php?t=305253

But really, all most of us need is a used fuel composition sensor from a junk yard (any car should be fine, they all seem to be sourced by Siemens) and a frequency to voltage converter hooked up to a Zeitronix WB or any other WB that takes user input.
Someone needs to make a converter making a sensor's 5v output that fluctuates between 50-150hz to represent ethanol content into a signal that would fluctuate between 0-5v that can be hooked up to ZT-2.

Got any electrical engineer friends? Or customers?
Old Oct 23, 2008 | 10:43 AM
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Originally Posted by razorlab
For the California people, I found out from the Pearson fuels rep that our mix never changes. It's always E85, year round.
i found out the answer to my question over here i guess Bryan....thanks
Old Nov 8, 2008 | 07:37 PM
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now makes gauges for use with flexfuel sensors that can be bought on ebay for the cheapest from what I gather. On a side note I retuned my car today and noticed the change in ethanol%..I had to lean it up some..Still makes the same power, slightly more but I am running insane timing advance to try to get the elusive 11.49ET
Originally Posted by razorlab
Yea I agree. I have that chart as well and I did bring it up. He said currently it does not change mix. He said once more stations open in possible colder climates in California that might change. Most of California does not get below 40-50*

Speaking of ethanol content gauges, where is the best place to get these things now?

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Old Nov 8, 2008 | 09:50 PM
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Originally Posted by mplspilot
When it comes to gauges, i only know about the ones Merkzu sells:
https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/sh...d.php?t=305253

But really, all most of us need is a used fuel composition sensor from a junk yard (any car should be fine, they all seem to be sourced by Siemens) and a frequency to voltage converter hooked up to a Zeitronix WB or any other WB that takes user input.
Someone needs to make a converter making a sensor's 5v output that fluctuates between 50-150hz to represent ethanol content into a signal that would fluctuate between 0-5v that can be hooked up to ZT-2.

Got any electrical engineer friends? Or customers?
Like this Ethanol Content Analyzer?
http://www.zeitronix.com/press/2008....75x1000_c6.jpg
Old Nov 8, 2008 | 11:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Zeitronix
Like this Ethanol Content Analyzer?
http://www.zeitronix.com/press/2008....75x1000_c6.jpg

Yes. Alot more details please.
Old Nov 9, 2008 | 09:55 AM
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The ECA works with GM flex fuel sensor. It displays ethanol content and fuel temperature. Two analog outputs provide fuel temperature and E% for your favorite standalone. The ECA was very well received at the SEMA show.
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Old Nov 9, 2008 | 10:09 AM
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Originally Posted by razorlab
Yea I agree. I have that chart as well and I did bring it up. He said currently it does not change mix. He said once more stations open in possible colder climates in California that might change. Most of California does not get below 40-50*
Local Los Angeles station had E92 during peak summer temps and peak gas prices. They PROBABLY blended more E into E85 to cut down on cost.

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Speaking of ethanol content gauges, where is the best place to get these things now?
We just debuted new Ethanol Content Analyzer at SEMA.
Old Nov 9, 2008 | 11:15 AM
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Is it on the market now for sale? I would like to know how much? Thanks.
Old Nov 9, 2008 | 12:02 PM
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Originally Posted by 2theMAX
Is it on the market now for sale? I would like to know how much? Thanks.
ECA is available at $199.
We will have it shortly on the order page. Right now you need to source out your own FF sensor.
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