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iTrader: (30)

What is the difference between these two?

For using EvoScan and ECUflash, will both cables fit the purpose?

1. http://www.tactrix.com/product_info....products_id=34

2. http://www.limitless.co.nz/cables/

recompile

iTrader: (38)

The Tactrix is an OpenPort 1.3M, the 2nd one there is 1.4E... I honestly don't know the difference, but the Tactrix has a Mitsu ECU flash plug in addition to the OBDII, so if you are gonna flash, you'll need the Tactrix.

Send a PM to Gruppe-S asking for their best price on OpenPort 1.3M for Evo, they took care of me (beat Tactrix price)

MalibuJack

iTrader: (5)

The 1.4E cable as far as I have been able to tell CANNOT reflash your ECU, but otherwise they both can log though..

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iTrader: (30)

Is it odd that this tactrix cable that i've listed actually has a USB pin at the other end instead of serial? I thought I would need a serial to usb converter pin but this one doesnt even have serial.

Thanks for the help!

MalibuJack

iTrader: (5)

The Tactrix cable (since i have two of them) uses its own built-in USB-Serial chip..

The reasoning the developer used was that This particular USB-Serial adapter is better able to accomodate unusual baud rates required for communicating with the ECU. Hence he chose to offer the cable with only the USB connection.

The tactrix cable also has special circuitry to allow triggering of a bootstrap/Reflash mode from software for reflashing the ECU, which no other cable currently supports.

Other cables are "Home brew" setups which are basically just isolating the ECU signal and translating it to RS232 signals.. (the Japanese and Euro ECU's, among many others use a protocol similar to regular serial communications and therefore makes it easy to work with)

The other cable from limitless may be available as either or neither, I know very little about it.

jfitzpat

Based on the photos, both the cables you have listed have USB on one end, not serial. This is pretty common now that computers seldom include built in ports any more and USB->serial chip solutions are so common.

-jjf

evo4mad

iTrader: (4)

Yes, both cables are fit for the purpose of DataLogging they use the same components.

The same FTDI chip used by the EvoScan 1.4E Cable can successfully convert USB to Serial TTL levels required for the OBDII and MUTII standard, because Mitsubishi uses a complex array of baudrates, a standard PC serial port OBDII circuit won't be able to communicate properly. And USB is soo much better these days anyway, if it was to be a serial converter then everyone would just end up buying a USB converter as well.

A lot of Mitsubishi Vehicles aren't supported by EcuFlash therefore don't require the boot voltage of the tactrix cable. The EvoScan 1.4E Cable uses the same circuit board and components as the Tactrix Cable and is used for datalogging Mitsubishi vehicles, therefore is 100% compatable with the tactrix cable for datalogging. And I wanted to provide a cheaper alternative for my evo club mates. I have made them in bulk so I have been able to source the components as cheaply as possible.

I also have produced a number of high quality EvoScan 1.3M "100% compatable tactrix" reflashing cables, but they are only available for club members.

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iTrader: (30)

I'll just order the Tactrix and save myself any added headaches as I know that one will work.

Thanks for the helP!

evo4mad

iTrader: (4)

the tactrix cable only works with Evo7/8/9 (other mitsubishi vehicles require wiring modifications for it to work)

whereas the EvoScan 1.4E cable is used by 100s of people on ALL 1996+ Mitsubishi's without modification to the vehicle wiring.

Since you have an Evo9, either will be fine for you.

Inprogress

iTrader: (30)

Either will be fine for logging and flashing?

evo4mad

iTrader: (4)

EvoScan 1.4E = All Mitsubishi's Datalogging (no reflash support - but is 100% datalogger compatable with 1.3M cables)

EvoScan 1.3M = All Mitsubishi's Datalogging (& Reflashing for Evo7/8/9) (Not publicly available until EvoScan v0.98 release)

Tactrix 1.3M = Datalogging only for Evo7/8/9 & Reflashing only for Evo7/8/9 (supports datalogging for other mitsubishis with car wiring modification)

nj1266

iTrader: (6)

OK, I ordered this one by accident

http://www.tactrix.com/product_info.php?products_id=36

Instead of this one

http://www.tactrix.com/product_info.php?products_id=34

Would the first one work? What are the extra plugs for?

evo4mad

iTrader: (4)

the extra plugs are for Subaru vehicles. you can turn a Tactrix 1.3M into a Tactrix 1.3U with a few additional components.

evo4mad

iTrader: (4)

The EvoScan 1.3M Cable ALSO supports special circuitry to allow triggering of a bootstrap/Reflash mode from software for reflashing the ECU.

nj1266

iTrader: (6)

OK...would the one I ordered work on the Mitsu or should I get on the phone and ask them to change the order?