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Old Mar 3, 2007, 10:27 PM
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here is also the min AFR log
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Old Mar 3, 2007, 10:32 PM
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finally tha Knock Max counts.

i will apriciate any help in LoadCal as i am still cant find why it is not correctly calculated. at least am sure that it shouldnt reach 300 according to my boost level.

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Old Mar 3, 2007, 11:07 PM
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jjf

i did modify the protocols.XML file as per your post. so i was able to log the AFRMAP successfully using LogWorks2. (if any body want the file i can forwaded to you)

then i used the evoscan approach as it is more accurate than mitsulogger.

attache is the math trace formula.

why it is still not accurate. as if i used the same rpm and ignition timing degrees to determine the load from the stock map, i can find differences.?
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@fbikawi
What is your ECU ID?
I have just found the 2 Byte load addresses for an EVO 7, id 99860002
Maybe this will help you out.
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I changed my injector latency to a static value .. I think that's your problem ..

If everything is stock .. even our injector latency values are different from the USDM Evos

Use this as your injector latency computation
(-0.1026*battery)+1.9226 ..
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JoeBee,

my ecu id is 98640014..it is different. i am not sure about 2 byte load, but i tried using mitsulogger to check 2 byte load and the data reading speed were very slow with funny figures for all sensors?


gunzo,

u are my hero. yes your formula is correct i check it with the Injector Battery Voltage table in my stock map and it is working.

4.69 = 3.312
7.03 = 1.680
14.06 = 0.480
18.68 = 0.240

i will change the formula in LogWorks to calculate correct injector latency. it should work.

thanks for all. and still interested to know about 2 byte load.
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You can try the 2 Byte Load here:
https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/sh...46#post4071146
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Originally Posted by fbikawi
JoeBee,

my ecu id is 98640014..it is different. i am not sure about 2 byte load, but i tried using mitsulogger to check 2 byte load and the data reading speed were very slow with funny figures for all sensors?


gunzo,

u are my hero. yes your formula is correct i check it with the Injector Battery Voltage table in my stock map and it is working.

4.69 = 3.312
7.03 = 1.680
14.06 = 0.480
18.68 = 0.240

i will change the formula in LogWorks to calculate correct injector latency. it should work.

thanks for all. and still interested to know about 2 byte load.
Hi

This is the same ECU ID as mine, I run a hex modifed to output real load, I can post up the ECUflash xml changes if you like.

MB
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Hi

This is the same ECU ID as mine, I run a hex modifed to output real load, I can post up the ECUflash xml changes if you like.
great, please do. and if you can attach the xml file i will appriciate it.

till now i couldnt log the real load.

thanks
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Originally Posted by fbikawi
finally tha Knock Max counts.

i will apriciate any help in LoadCal as i am still cant find why it is not correctly calculated. at least am sure that it shouldnt reach 300 according to my boost level.

Looking at your knock sums you posted, you have a few up there at the 5 counts. You might want to re visit the fueling and timing to reduce that. try to keep it at mo more than 3 counts anywhere. I usually do several back to back 1-4 WOT runs then check the last one for knock. That way you factor in heat soak . AFR looks OK so maybe take out 1 degree in the affected load cells. What boost are you running 1.7-1.8 bar?

Milburn
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Originally Posted by wrcwannabe
Looking at your knock sums you posted, you have a few up there at the 5 counts. You might want to re visit the fueling and timing to reduce that. try to keep it at mo more than 3 counts anywhere. I usually do several back to back 1-4 WOT runs then check the last one for knock. That way you factor in heat soak . AFR looks OK so maybe take out 1 degree in the affected load cells. What boost are you running 1.7-1.8 bar?

Milburn
that is the problem i am running only 1.3 bar (1.5 spike) and the load calculation is not correct.

i am tring to understand how to log real load (2 byte)?
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Originally Posted by fbikawi
great, please do. and if you can attach the xml file i will appriciate it.

till now i couldnt log the real load.

thanks
Note this will only work for a JDM 7 using 98640014 xml deff.
Add these lines to your xml def for ecuflash


<table name="RequestID00" category="Misc" address="2e9e2" type="1D" level="1" scaling="uint16"/>

<table name="RequestID01" category="Misc" address="2e9e6" type="1D" level="1" scaling="uint16"/>

Then change RequestID00 to 34908 and request ID01 to 34909 in ECUflash, you can now log real load in Mitislogger or Evoscan with the appropeiate additions for each logger

Evoscan
<DataListItem DataLog="Y" Display="Load0" LogReference="Load0" RequestID="00" Eval="x" Unit="steps" MetricEval="" MetricUnit="" ResponseBytes="1" GaugeMin="0" GaugeMax="255" ChartMin="0" ChartMax="255" Notes="" />
<DataListItem DataLog="Y" Display="Load1" LogReference="Load1" RequestID="01" Eval="x" Unit="steps" MetricEval="" MetricUnit="" ResponseBytes="1" GaugeMin="0" GaugeMax="255" ChartMin="0" ChartMax="255" Notes="" />
<DataListItem DataLog="Y" Display="2byteLoad" LogReference="2byteLoad" RequestID="FF" Eval="((256*[Load0])+[Load1])*0.3125" Unit="load" MetricEval="" MetricUnit="" ResponseBytes="1" GaugeMin="0" GaugeMax="500" ChartMin="0" ChartMax="500" Notes="2 byte load read from ECU" />

Mistislogger

<Request LogReference="requestID00" RequestID="00" Eval="x" Unit="INT" Logged="y" Response="2"/>
<Request LogReference="requestID01" RequestID="01" Eval="x" Unit="INT" Logged="y" Response="2"/>

<Request LogReference="Load" RequestID="FF" Eval="((256*requestID00)+requestID01)*10/32" Unit="2byteLoad" Logged="y" Response="2"/>

ROM file changes courtesy jcsbanks, loggers a couple of smart people on here who unfortunately I can't remember, beer has interfered in this process.

MB
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I think gunzo should give all 7 owners on here an outing in his works ride, I'm sure he can get a "D" for a few days..................."I have control...oh cr@p"

MB
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Originally Posted by burgers22
Note this will only work for a JDM 7 using 98640014 xml deff.
Add these lines to your xml def for ecuflash


<table name="RequestID00" category="Misc" address="2e9e2" type="1D" level="1" scaling="uint16"/>

<table name="RequestID01" category="Misc" address="2e9e6" type="1D" level="1" scaling="uint16"/>

Then change RequestID00 to 34908 and request ID01 to 34909 in ECUflash, you can now log real load in Mitislogger or Evoscan with the appropeiate additions for each logger

Evoscan
<DataListItem DataLog="Y" Display="Load0" LogReference="Load0" RequestID="00" Eval="x" Unit="steps" MetricEval="" MetricUnit="" ResponseBytes="1" GaugeMin="0" GaugeMax="255" ChartMin="0" ChartMax="255" Notes="" />
<DataListItem DataLog="Y" Display="Load1" LogReference="Load1" RequestID="01" Eval="x" Unit="steps" MetricEval="" MetricUnit="" ResponseBytes="1" GaugeMin="0" GaugeMax="255" ChartMin="0" ChartMax="255" Notes="" />
<DataListItem DataLog="Y" Display="2byteLoad" LogReference="2byteLoad" RequestID="FF" Eval="((256*[Load0])+[Load1])*0.3125" Unit="load" MetricEval="" MetricUnit="" ResponseBytes="1" GaugeMin="0" GaugeMax="500" ChartMin="0" ChartMax="500" Notes="2 byte load read from ECU" />

Mistislogger

<Request LogReference="requestID00" RequestID="00" Eval="x" Unit="INT" Logged="y" Response="2"/>
<Request LogReference="requestID01" RequestID="01" Eval="x" Unit="INT" Logged="y" Response="2"/>

<Request LogReference="Load" RequestID="FF" Eval="((256*requestID00)+requestID01)*10/32" Unit="2byteLoad" Logged="y" Response="2"/>

ROM file changes courtesy jcsbanks, loggers a couple of smart people on here who unfortunately I can't remember, beer has interfered in this process.

MB
i did the above modifications and i will try it later today. i think it will work

thank to burgers22, JoeBee, gunzo, jcsbanks and all the other great guys.

i dont feel lonely any more being an EVO VII driver while most others driving EVO VIII. we have a great EVO VII group here.
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Originally Posted by burgers22
I think gunzo should give all 7 owners on here an outing in his works ride, I'm sure he can get a "D" for a few days..................."I have control...oh cr@p"

MB


Yes you should try !! nothing beats afterburn !!


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