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Old Mar 24, 2007 | 09:18 PM
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Originally Posted by mrfred
Thanks jcsb. I wish I could take full credit, but I started with a Vishnu flash. I just made some changes to suit my preferences and try to improve upon it. Since I did start with a Vishnu flash, I'm not sure I should post the actual maps even though they are now somewhat different than the Vishnu values. However, I figure its fair enough to say that that the posted WGDC curve is not too different than what I programmed into the MWGDC tables. :-)
So I take it you are also using the vishnu "passive solenoid emulator" that is added on the solenoid side of the hoses, not an upgraded pill in the hose.
Old Mar 25, 2007 | 05:13 AM
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mrfred I was praising particularly your work in the logging

I didn't realise you guys were using restrictors so small that the midrange duty is so low. I've only used dual solenoids or 3 ports.
Old Mar 25, 2007 | 09:35 AM
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mrfred I was praising particularly your work in the logging

I didn't realise you guys were using restrictors so small that the midrange duty is so low. I've only used dual solenoids or 3 ports.
lol. Then I'll gladly take the praise for the logging! :-) But I gotta say that Bez told me the MUT address.

In my case, I'm using what Shiv calls a "passive solenoid emulator" which is nothing more than an inline bleeder that goes in place of the OEM restrictor pill and reduces line pressure by venting air to atmosphere. It creates lots of headroom for creating a WGDC curve that can give a flat boost response.
Old Mar 25, 2007 | 09:40 AM
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Originally Posted by bhcevo
Basic question here...

Is WGDC the solenoid duty cycle? Or is it the actual duty cycle of the waste gate valve? I assume the former. There is no sensor at the waste gate valve...right?
Its the BCS duty cycle. The name is a bit misleading.
Old Mar 25, 2007 | 01:09 PM
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Originally Posted by jcsbanks
Didn't work? What numbers did it give? Whilst I'd looked for these previously and failed, what Bez has found looks to be the hardware ports, and the req85 appears to be the equivalent to 86...

They will of course log different values, but not the values from the tables, what the actual solenoids are running.

I really thought this was it:
Was thinking today that maybe it does work but because I was running such a small restrictor at the time, the ecu didn't need to activate the second solenoid to match the desired boost/load and thats why it stays at 0 and the other one is so different from the mwgd map
I've put the standard restrictors back in again and will recheck it asap.

Originally Posted by burgers22
Yes everyone seems to wonder about Crypts boost, I reckon he sold his soul to the spool up devil!
I recon you could be right about the induction making the maf read low as that would explain the extra boost, exellent power and nice fuelling from his first rr run, it may also explain why it was so rich this time round as if it was reading low the timing would also be further advanced than it should be so may have been causing some knock, hence retarding the timing and richening the fuelling.

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Old Mar 25, 2007 | 02:53 PM
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ID86 does not produce reasonable results on my FQ320 (88570008)
Old Mar 26, 2007 | 11:38 AM
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When using mitsulogger to log the WGDC, I get a max value of 78.43 way before my WGDC map hits 100%

Anybody else notice this?

I also edited the mitsulogger definition file for DLL to support seeing the WGDC

Code:
[Column]
 Name=WGDC
 Description=Waste Gate Duty Cycle
 ColumnTitle=WGDC
 DataItemID=10
 Type=1
 ColumnDecimalPlaces=2
 DisplayDecimalPlaces=2
Old Mar 27, 2007 | 11:33 AM
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Ok, I just found out that the value 78.43 is the maximum value, so I modifed mitsulogger's requestid.xml and divided by .7843, which now shows up as the WGDC in percent which matches exactly with what ecuflash is set to when the Boost Error Control is zeroed out.

Code:
 <Request LogReference="WGDC" RequestID="86" Eval="(x*100/255)/.7843" Unit="%" Response="2" />

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Old Mar 27, 2007 | 11:51 AM
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Originally Posted by turbotiger
Ok, I just found out that the value 78.43 is the maximum value, so I modifed mitsulogger's requestid.xml and divided by .7843, which now shows up as the WGDC in percent which matches exactly with what ecuflash is set to when the Boost Error Control is zeroed out.

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 <Request LogReference="WGDC" RequestID="86" Eval="(x*100/255).7843" Unit="%" Response="2" />
So with error correction zeroed out, the logged WGDC matched exactly with the MWGDC table in the ROM with your scaling factor?
Old Mar 27, 2007 | 11:57 AM
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Eval should be x/2 I reckon. This fits with the scaling of the max WG solenoid maps. 0-200 on the maps and the logs should be 0-100%.
Old Mar 27, 2007 | 12:04 PM
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Originally Posted by jcsbanks
Eval should be x/2 I reckon. This fits with the scaling of the max WG solenoid maps. 0-200 on the maps and the logs should be 0-100%.
ok. Updated the first post for the correct conversion factor.
Old Mar 27, 2007 | 12:43 PM
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I replotted my WGDC values with the updated conversion factor, and it makes much more sense now! Now I can see exactly what needs modification.
Old Mar 27, 2007 | 02:51 PM
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Originally Posted by mrfred
So with error correction zeroed out, the logged WGDC matched exactly with the MWGDC table in the ROM with your scaling factor?
Yes, it matched exactly with the MWGDC table in the ROM with error correction zeroed out. If you rounded up, it'd be exact.

I made a typo in my earlier post, it's now corrected for the eval formula. Your quote had the / omitted.
Old Mar 27, 2007 | 02:56 PM
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Originally Posted by jcsbanks
Eval should be x/2 I reckon. This fits with the scaling of the max WG solenoid maps. 0-200 on the maps and the logs should be 0-100%.

Aah, yes, that makes sense. Much simpler as well.
Old Mar 27, 2007 | 03:01 PM
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amazes me what the stock bcs can achieve..


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