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Old Sep 7, 2007 | 11:37 AM
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I hit 14 degrees peak on 20 psi. Close enough for me.
How do you know???
Old Sep 7, 2007 | 12:24 PM
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He was saying that he ran 14º advanced ignition timing ... there was just a little confusion.
Old Sep 7, 2007 | 12:51 PM
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Ah! Got ya.
Old Sep 7, 2007 | 12:58 PM
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Originally Posted by TouringBubble
What's the use in winning if you know you're cheating?


Because whether you win by an inch or a mile, winning's winning.

You get the money, and the respeckt. Biitchezz..

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Old Sep 7, 2007 | 04:51 PM
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Originally Posted by KartaRailed
I don't know about evo 9's but I picked up more power by adding timing than boost. If I tune to the edge at 20 psi and about 14 degrees of timing up top the car is noticably faster than if I tune for say, 23 psi and 9 degrees of timing up top, which seem to be the timing numbers that my motor starts seeing knock at. I would rather be able to tell people im on 20 pounds than 23 as well.
The probable reason here is that the stock turbo is outside its effceincy range when running @ 23 psi @ 7000 rpm. I have yet to find an answer to what is the effeciency range of the stock trubo by 7000 rpm? Is it 17 psi, 19 psi, 23 psi???
Old Sep 7, 2007 | 04:55 PM
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Originally Posted by tephra
the reason why you guys aren't seeing any more power when adding more boost than 20psi is because the IX turbo is hitting its efficiency level at about 19-20psi (at redline) .. so after that its just blowing hot air
I believe you, but could you give me data to back this up?
Old Sep 10, 2007 | 02:21 PM
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I lean out ontop and add timing starting before the leaning. I also increased boost to 21-22 with better results than everything same but boost decreased to 20
Old Sep 10, 2007 | 02:22 PM
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I also richened up a few low loads here and there.
Old Sep 10, 2007 | 02:49 PM
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Originally Posted by lemmonhead
I lean out ontop and add timing starting before the leaning. I also increased boost to 21-22 with better results than everything same but boost decreased to 20
This is the typical result. Boost essentially increases compression which will obviously make power.

As I mentioned, getting to that magic 15º ATDC point is the key. Once you are there, boost will always make power assuming you keep away from knock. That's where the turbo's efficiency range and fuel octane comes in.




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