how-to: ECU-based direct boost control
#303
So I am a little clueless on tuning both this min load for boost and open loop load tables. Is the load percentage, i.e. 86.9% @ 1000rpm, the percentage of load ok target load? What is the percentage load a percentage of? I am confused on how to edit this table since there are >100% values.
#304
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So I am a little clueless on tuning both this min load for boost and open loop load tables. Is the load percentage, i.e. 86.9% @ 1000rpm, the percentage of load ok target load? What is the percentage load a percentage of? I am confused on how to edit this table since there are >100% values.
#305
Ahhh gotcha. Yes, i agree, confusing and stupid unit.
So I gather this is why people use 45 for the open loop tables to force it into open loop and give it leaner values in cruise range? Makes sense and it prevents delay from tip in.
So I gather this is why people use 45 for the open loop tables to force it into open loop and give it leaner values in cruise range? Makes sense and it prevents delay from tip in.
#307
Yeah the subaru boost control is much better stock then ours. But I feel our cars are much better stock then theirs. My roommate and tuner has a JDM sti motor in his WRX and I would give up easy boost control for that disaster of an engine to work on. Plus we are getting close to their system. If/when the PID controller system is released i dont think we will have much to complain about
#308
Yeah the subaru boost control is much better stock then ours. But I feel our cars are much better stock then theirs. My roommate and tuner has a JDM sti motor in his WRX and I would give up easy boost control for that disaster of an engine to work on. Plus we are getting close to their system. If/when the PID controller system is released i dont think we will have much to complain about
yeah they are a pain to work on but the tranny drops are ALOT easier compared to ours
sorry for the OT
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These actually aren't ROM mods. The tables have always existed, but the person who disassembled the ROM to create the ECUFlash definitions either didn't find these tables, didn't understand their purpose, or decided that they weren't a valuable tuning tool.
#310
WHAT??!! wow nice info, thats why your the man mrfred
evo 8 dont get any love j/k i know its coming and your a business man
Last edited by bnice01; Mar 19, 2008 at 11:02 AM.
#311
Mrfred, in the Max WGDC Corr vs TPS are the % values absolute values? For instance if i have max correction of 10% at 100% TPS and overshoot boost by 3psi which has a correction of -15% will it only subtract 10% or does it only apply the limits to positive numbers? I would think the ECU may avoid clipping any overboosting.
#313
Played around with the "Max WGDC Correction vs TPS" table today on a Evo 9.
I think this does something other than what we think!
I bought them down and the BWGDC and thus boost also came down. Load was on target before I change the Max WGDC Correction vs TPS values, so no correction was taking place. It brought the boost down almost 5psi.
I'm beginning to think it's a global boost curve setting now.
I have some logs I can post a little later.
I think this does something other than what we think!
I bought them down and the BWGDC and thus boost also came down. Load was on target before I change the Max WGDC Correction vs TPS values, so no correction was taking place. It brought the boost down almost 5psi.
I'm beginning to think it's a global boost curve setting now.
I have some logs I can post a little later.
#314
Played around with the "Max WGDC Correction vs TPS" table today on a Evo 9.
I think this does something other than what we think!
I bought them down and the BWGDC and thus boost also came down. Load was on target before I change the Max WGDC Correction vs TPS values, so no correction was taking place. It brought the boost down almost 5psi.
I'm beginning to think it's a global boost curve setting now.
I have some logs I can post a little later.
I think this does something other than what we think!
I bought them down and the BWGDC and thus boost also came down. Load was on target before I change the Max WGDC Correction vs TPS values, so no correction was taking place. It brought the boost down almost 5psi.
I'm beginning to think it's a global boost curve setting now.
I have some logs I can post a little later.
Code:
TPS% Max Corr 0 0 13 0 25 0 38 0 50 0 63 0 75 10 88 10 100 20
#315
Played around with the "Max WGDC Correction vs TPS" table today on a Evo 9.
I think this does something other than what we think!
I bought them down and the BWGDC and thus boost also came down. Load was on target before I change the Max WGDC Correction vs TPS values, so no correction was taking place. It brought the boost down almost 5psi.
I'm beginning to think it's a global boost curve setting now.
I have some logs I can post a little later.
I think this does something other than what we think!
I bought them down and the BWGDC and thus boost also came down. Load was on target before I change the Max WGDC Correction vs TPS values, so no correction was taking place. It brought the boost down almost 5psi.
I'm beginning to think it's a global boost curve setting now.
I have some logs I can post a little later.