how-to: ECU-based direct boost control
#496
The AEM intake works well for the street but needs more shielding for the track.
I would recommend buying a cheap cone intake, like the vibrant filter and MAF adapter (about $45 together) , then building a good heat shield between the MAF and the rest of the engine bay. Don't box the filter in as that will drop the Baro again. Just shield the intake from the motor and espically the radiator.
Depending on your UICP setup you can basically make a divider that almost centerlines on the frame rail.
If you want a already produced solution, the HKS kansai box works pretty well (without the crap HKS filter), it drops the baro a tad because its almost a complete box but it's better than the stock box for sure. It also incorporates it's own snorkel like stock but much bigger. We used this on our Redline Time Attack 2nd place street Evo. Worked really well. Bit pricey though.
#499
Last edited by tnt1106; Oct 15, 2008 at 04:21 PM.
#500
Thanks so much to everyone that helped me get this up and goin! Especialy You MrFred!! Here is a rough first log. I am guessing I want "boost error" to be as close to 0 as it can be? When it says 9.5psi boost error, that means i need to increase or decrease wgdc? you can see some spots at 10psi... more work for me. Thanks again!!
#501
at 5000 rpm your logging 254 load.
However your BDEL + Offset = 279, error correction is showing -20, well because you are -20 off your target load, so correction is adding 0.2%, which is in your -20 setting of your error correction table.
You need to rework your target load settings.
#502
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A custom one. Seriously though the only one that won't heat soak very much will be a custom made one.
The AEM intake works well for the street but needs more shielding for the track.
I would recommend buying a cheap cone intake, like the vibrant filter and MAF adapter (about $45 together) , then building a good heat shield between the MAF and the rest of the engine bay. Don't box the filter in as that will drop the Baro again. Just shield the intake from the motor and espically the radiator.
Depending on your UICP setup you can basically make a divider that almost centerlines on the frame rail.
If you want a already produced solution, the HKS kansai box works pretty well (without the crap HKS filter), it drops the baro a tad because its almost a complete box but it's better than the stock box for sure. It also incorporates it's own snorkel like stock but much bigger. We used this on our Redline Time Attack 2nd place street Evo. Worked really well. Bit pricey though.
The AEM intake works well for the street but needs more shielding for the track.
I would recommend buying a cheap cone intake, like the vibrant filter and MAF adapter (about $45 together) , then building a good heat shield between the MAF and the rest of the engine bay. Don't box the filter in as that will drop the Baro again. Just shield the intake from the motor and espically the radiator.
Depending on your UICP setup you can basically make a divider that almost centerlines on the frame rail.
If you want a already produced solution, the HKS kansai box works pretty well (without the crap HKS filter), it drops the baro a tad because its almost a complete box but it's better than the stock box for sure. It also incorporates it's own snorkel like stock but much bigger. We used this on our Redline Time Attack 2nd place street Evo. Worked really well. Bit pricey though.
http://www.norcalevo.net/forum/index...c,18378.0.html
There are two variants of the same setup in this thread.
Also do you have any experience with the Apexi Induction Box?
#503
Hey razorlab, have you seen either of these intakes in action either on the dyno or on the track?:
http://www.norcalevo.net/forum/index...c,18378.0.html
There are two variants of the same setup in this thread.
Also do you have any experience with the Apexi Induction Box?
http://www.norcalevo.net/forum/index...c,18378.0.html
There are two variants of the same setup in this thread.
Also do you have any experience with the Apexi Induction Box?
They seemed to work pretty good. The first one never sees the track, just street. The second one autox's. I haven't logged it at an autox though.
The Apexi box works ok, the adapter and filter messes with the MAF, just FYI. The box itself works well but it's basically just two pieces of sheetmetal you could make yourself on a sunday.
#506
PSI-target boost won't magically make the turbo hold any more boost then load-target. Sounds like you had the load-based boost control not tuned correctly.
Outcome will be the same on both methods, just PSI-target is easier to tune and is more consistant in different weather and altitudes.
btw, can you post a current boost plot? I would love to see the boost curve on the Red with a stock airbox.
Outcome will be the same on both methods, just PSI-target is easier to tune and is more consistant in different weather and altitudes.
btw, can you post a current boost plot? I would love to see the boost curve on the Red with a stock airbox.
#507
PSI-target boost won't magically make the turbo hold any more boost then load-target. Sounds like you had the load-based boost control not tuned correctly.
Outcome will be the same on both methods, just PSI-target is easier to tune and is more consistant in different weather and altitudes.
btw, can you post a current boost plot? I would love to see the boost curve on the Red with a stock airbox.
Outcome will be the same on both methods, just PSI-target is easier to tune and is more consistant in different weather and altitudes.
btw, can you post a current boost plot? I would love to see the boost curve on the Red with a stock airbox.
Airbox in its current state (in all the above logs in this thread, did this when added Red):
so the Side and back are opened up. next mod when time allows will be for me to build my own fiberglass air box with multiple cold air inlets. What filter do you suggest for inside that enclosure?
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#509
I also want to make some sort of enclosure for my air filter setup to try and minimize the variances I get in air intake temps when I do multiple pulls in a row. I wish I wasn't using my stock ICS tank for my aky kit or I'd have plenty of room for duct work Its tight as a **** in that area.
#510
I also want to make some sort of enclosure for my air filter setup to try and minimize the variances I get in air intake temps when I do multiple pulls in a row. I wish I wasn't using my stock ICS tank for my aky kit or I'd have plenty of room for duct work Its tight as a **** in that area.