how-to: ECU-based direct boost control
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mrfred,
Why did you set-up the range on the BEC table from 3.1 to -3.1? Why not use the stock range? Just curious
When I modified the xml file, I noticed that the TBEC table (the one that I use for load based boost) also changed its range. I had to make two xml files/base files and swap them around to get around this issue.
Why did you set-up the range on the BEC table from 3.1 to -3.1? Why not use the stock range? Just curious
When I modified the xml file, I noticed that the TBEC table (the one that I use for load based boost) also changed its range. I had to make two xml files/base files and swap them around to get around this issue.
If all you did was modify the two xml files and *not the ROM itself*, the TBEC should look exactly the same when you open it using the modified xml files. If it doesn't look the same, then you make a mistake somewhere in preparing the xml files.
Remember that the TBEC table no longer matters when you switch to the direct boost system. When changes are made to the BEC table, the TBEC table will also change. Don't try to change the TBEC table back after making changes to the BEC table. Ignore the TBEC table completely when working on a ROM that has been converted to direct boost control.
#77
If all you did was modify the two xml files and *not the ROM itself*, the TBEC should look exactly the same when you open it using the modified xml files. If it doesn't look the same, then you make a mistake somewhere in preparing the xml files.
#78
Does this happen on the fly, dynmically by the ECU? i.e. does the ECU use the BEC table and equate the new TBEC values as it needs to? or does the ECU just disregard the TBEC table? I think that is what NJ is getting at.
#79
After going back to load based control from the boost based control, my TBEC table still has PSI error values. I had to remove the scalings added to the Evo9base file to correct this. I think this is the same issue NJ has.
#80
Yup, that is the issue that I am having. That is why I am swapping xml files. I have two xml files (base and 015) for load and two xml files (base and 015) for psi. I know I only need to swap the base, but I made two of each becuase it looks cleaner that way. I tune other Evos that do not have a JDMMAP and I do not want to clutter their rom with unneccesary tables.
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Yup, that is the issue that I am having. That is why I am swapping xml files. I have two xml files (base and 015) for load and two xml files (base and 015) for psi. I know I only need to swap the base, but I made two of each becuase it looks cleaner that way. I tune other Evos that do not have a JDMMAP and I do not want to clutter their rom with unneccesary tables.
If you want to switch back to load-based boost control after trying the direct boost control, then you'll need to undo all the changes that were made to the ROM *but not the xml files*. Or, you can keep a copy of your load-based boost control ROM, and load that ROM into your ECU. No need to swap out the xml files when this is done.
Hope that makes sense.
EDIT: I just want to clarify that the ECUFlash xml files are only used to represent data in the ROM file. Adding the new entries to the xml files does not actually add any data to the ROM. What I do is highjack the TBEC, BCLO, and BDEL data in the ROM, rescale it, and use it for the new BEC, BA, and BB tables.
Last edited by mrfred; Sep 14, 2007 at 12:05 PM.
#82
I know the ROM data is the same, but the changes to the base XML changes the scaling on the stock TBEC table to psi error. The only way to change the scaling back to load error is to change the base XML. Try it yourself.
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Ah, I see what happened. I just fixed the problem in the instructions. Please recopy the new scaling definitions in the instructions in the first post into your "base" xml file, and then the TBEC table will have the correct scaling.
#84
That is what I am trying to communicate to mrfred. When we add the code that he gave us to the base xml file, the stock TBEC left column changes from load values to psi values. It becomes the same as the new BEC table.
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Yeah, sorry about that. I had changed a bunch of the names of the original scaling definitions in my base xml file and hadn't realized that the name I used for BEC scaling matched the original TBEC scaling name. The TBEC table will have its original scaling now.
Last edited by mrfred; Sep 14, 2007 at 04:27 PM.
#87
I am playing with this in 1.31 and some of the tables arent working, specifically boost error correction, boost adder and the baseline boost tables. None will let me enter in values nor do they display stock values. I know 1.31 isnt supported just wondering if anyone has seen this.
Also does anyone have the mitsulogger definitions?
Also does anyone have the mitsulogger definitions?
#88
A little OT, and not trying to thread jack but....
I'm liking this direct boost control thing, and being that it relies on having a JDM MAP sensor, I'm wondering when I might be able to order another one from 'mrfred' for a backup in case mine fails for some reason.
I know this has been asked in the JDM MAP thread, but just thought I'd mention it here... hee hee.
I'm liking this direct boost control thing, and being that it relies on having a JDM MAP sensor, I'm wondering when I might be able to order another one from 'mrfred' for a backup in case mine fails for some reason.
I know this has been asked in the JDM MAP thread, but just thought I'd mention it here... hee hee.
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A little OT, and not trying to thread jack but....
I'm liking this direct boost control thing, and being that it relies on having a JDM MAP sensor, I'm wondering when I might be able to order another one from 'mrfred' for a backup in case mine fails for some reason.
I know this has been asked in the JDM MAP thread, but just thought I'd mention it here... hee hee.
I'm liking this direct boost control thing, and being that it relies on having a JDM MAP sensor, I'm wondering when I might be able to order another one from 'mrfred' for a backup in case mine fails for some reason.
I know this has been asked in the JDM MAP thread, but just thought I'd mention it here... hee hee.
#90
I ask because I am still getting less than desired boost even though I add to my WGDC.
Last edited by nj1266; Sep 14, 2007 at 11:06 PM.