Evoscan 4th gear pull from last night... thoughts?
#33
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Boosted, after your last PM I remembered why we are where we're at as far as 2 byte (say that 4 times fast). Like I mentioned previously just getting the airflow hz values PRE CLIP can be enough to help figure out whats going.
Jack-remember that IX's have a bigger turbo, and MR's have a specific compressor housing. 330whp from a IX is actually pretty easy with "just" a TBE and some boost.
Jack-remember that IX's have a bigger turbo, and MR's have a specific compressor housing. 330whp from a IX is actually pretty easy with "just" a TBE and some boost.
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Yea it took me like an hour to get the dang thing working, and I work with computers! Anyway, I had to download MalibuJacks "Datalog Definition File" and load it into DLL which will enable it to read EvoScan OpenPort logs (Customise/Options/File Locations and Power Graphs - change Universal Data Log Definition File). From there you just load your .CSV files from EvoScan. I found if you take all the info out of your log prior to and after 100tps DLL reads more accurate too (thanks evom).
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Heres some 3rd gear ones from last night when it was a little colder. Had time to take all the crap out of the csv file before I ran it through DLL too. I'm using 3050 weight because my tank was 1/2-3/4 full and I have mini battery and what not. My fat @ss is 250 so thats the weight # you see! It was also about 15 celsius not 20, but I played with the settings and the temp didnt change the graph or #'s at all. I left the scaling at 5 for everything too. What causes DLL to show the graph real jagged or spiked? Some of the graphs didnt really look like any of these, is it rough road or what? *EDIT* I clicked SAE correction and it lowered each graph by 2whp!
In order for SAE correction to work properly you have to have it setup properly.
Absolute or Station pressure is derived from gauge pressure + 14.7 lbs./sq. in at sea level.
Seattle absolute pressure or station pressure is 101.191398
Relative humidity is determined using temperature and dew point
Here's a calculator for figuring relative humidity
http://einstein.atmos.colostate.edu/.../Humidity.html
Car weight and gear ratios and tire height must also be accurate for DLL to give accurate results.
All Evo IX's diff ratio is 4.529 unlike the VIII 6speed 4.583
Evo IX MR weight 3285 instead of VIII 6-speed 3109
Evo IX MR car definition (I think this is correct, specs from http://www.sportcompactcarweb.com/ro..._ix/index.html)
Data Log Lab Car Definition File
File Created: 22-Jun-2007 16:22
Car Definition Details:
Name=EVO IX MR
Description=Mitsubishi Evolution IX MR
Units=I
1st Gear Ratio=2.909
2nd Gear Ratio=1.944
3rd Gear Ratio=1.434
4th Gear Ratio=1.1
5th Gear Ratio=0.868
6th Gear Ratio=0.693
Diff Ratio=4.529
1st Gear Relative Loss=15
2nd Gear Relative Loss=10
3rd Gear Relative Loss=7
4th Gear Relative Loss=0
5th Gear Relative Loss=3
6th Gear Relative Loss=6
Drive Wheel Radius=12.7
Tyre Width=235
Tyre Profile=45
Wheel Diameter=17
Tyre RPM=796
Tyre Size Method=1
Set Point Power=110
Set Point Speed=115
Use Drag Coefficient=N
Drag Coefficient=0.40
Frontal Area=2.00
Default Gear=3
Car Weight=3285
Car Contents Weight=175
Smoothing Factor=5
Dyno Factor=0
Last edited by Mr. Evo IX; Oct 11, 2007 at 10:30 AM.
#39
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MD613573 - MR compressor housing (05)
MD613524 - MR Hotside (05)
MD613573 - GSR compressor housing (05), updated from MD613567
MD613524 - GSR Hotside (05), updated from MD613521 (probably 9.8 from 03-04)
MN158029 - MR shortblock
MN158029 - GSR shortblock
So it looks like at one point the MR/GSR turbo stuff was different but was updated at one point to be the same, probably because of update from 9.8 to 10.5
Couldn't find longblock in CAPS so shortblock had to do.
Last edited by razorlab; Oct 11, 2007 at 11:12 AM.
#41
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The final drive that is listed is incorrect. The 6 speed is 4.583 not 4.529
Bryan- I dont know, I have seen that stuff but was told by ACP that the MR longblock is a different part number and more expensive. As I recall its the lobecenters on the cams (that was true in the 8's anyway) and the turbo. I will have to do some more research, but keep in mind the 10.5 hotside has been around alot longer than 05.
Bryan- I dont know, I have seen that stuff but was told by ACP that the MR longblock is a different part number and more expensive. As I recall its the lobecenters on the cams (that was true in the 8's anyway) and the turbo. I will have to do some more research, but keep in mind the 10.5 hotside has been around alot longer than 05.
#43
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The final drive that is listed is incorrect. The 6 speed is 4.583 not 4.529
Bryan- I dont know, I have seen that stuff but was told by ACP that the MR longblock is a different part number and more expensive. As I recall its the lobecenters on the cams (that was true in the 8's anyway) and the turbo. I will have to do some more research, but keep in mind the 10.5 hotside has been around alot longer than 05.
Bryan- I dont know, I have seen that stuff but was told by ACP that the MR longblock is a different part number and more expensive. As I recall its the lobecenters on the cams (that was true in the 8's anyway) and the turbo. I will have to do some more research, but keep in mind the 10.5 hotside has been around alot longer than 05.
However, in the UK, MR had different cams than the GSR so maybe that is where the 'rumor' started.
The 10.5 has been around longer than the 05 in other countries, doesn't mean the USA part number makes it different. Dual flapper and single flapper could be the part number differences as well.