01sporty

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off boost it drives pretty good actually I see positive manifold pressure by 3200rpm part throttle and I don't know where you say that my mid timing is low... lol compared to what? A stock turbo? The evo 9 map you are commenting on is running damn near the same midrange timing. I actually run less in the cruise by like 3* not a deal breaker.

NightCat

Alright, I'm thinking this is the final revision.

01sporty

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where is your midrange? (like 5psi)
where is peak load
what is your max load cell and what are you using to control boost?

PureDrivePerformance

01sporty: Couldn't see the video, but nice work on 91 oct. Do you all have all have E85 in Utah?

Update: Saw the vid. Is this in Utah? I see that you're getting E85. That will be so much nicer than 91!!! Our 91 here in Colorado is terrible too! I bet it's the same as Utah. Why can't we have 93?

NightCat

midrange...no idea what psi it's at. Not logging boost.

Peak Load - 295 2Byte. (4th gear) 288 2byte (3rd gear)

Boost is on an MBC per the owners request, not to my liking.

01sporty

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we have three stations around salt lake(20 miles from salt like in orem/provo)
but there is an independent chain that is dropping 110vp leaded and switching their pumps to e85(e70 measured on my tester)
I agree with you on the 91 octane!!! It blows!!! I tried some non-ethanol 92 octane that one place carries... funny thing happened though I actually started picking up more than my occasional 1 count I was seeing 2,3,sometimes 4 in fourth. My theory is that even 10 percent ethanol helps knock suppression. I have tested our 91 and it is on average 8-11% ethanol where I fill up.


Did you hear in the video in first and second the dang wastegate was blowing open

01sporty

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dang!!!!! I would so vehemently express your dislike on the MBC!!!! I absolutely Loathe entirely tuning cars on manual boost controllers. I would keep working him and try and do a mac valve for sure!!!! your map is spot on in the wot range though for pump gas. has this car seen 1320 times yet?

NightCat

I whole heartedly agree with you, I despise MBC's with a passion.

Most of the cars I tune I have on GrimSpeed EBCS's or some other flavor of EBCS so I can control boost at all times and cut it down to nothing incase the SHTF

I told him I'd feel better using the OEM BCS, he wanted to stick with the manual so...yea, it made my job easier, but I showed my dislike of the idea.

I'm primarily a Subaru Tuner and haven't done an Evo in several years... I miss how simple and easy they are by comparison.

No Times yet, this is part 2 of a 3 part tune.

Part 1 was to dial in the Stock Injectors on a Fairly Stock tune incase he ever had to sell the vehicle and wanted to go back to stock.

Part 2 (Current tune) As you see before you, a pretty mean streetable tune.

Part 3 - E85 pushing for real power. (hoping to see 350/370) or so...going to up the boost a little. It's around 23psi if I had to guess off what I Read on the gauge.

01sporty

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350 wheel horse?? on e85?
I have a guy that is on an evo9 turbo and fp25psi actuator on e85 that makes 393hp/410 tq ( torque below 4k is below 400)
If you are going to push that car on e85 I would tell him he is in for a landscape window sooner than late in his block if he keeps insisting on running a MBC. Reasoning is You cannot control boost onset with a MBC when Dumbas* people do long pulls from low rpms plus the awesome benefits of wgdc boost error mode and o2 safety is kick butt!!!! I don't understand why people won't spend the 130 dollars for the plug and play grimspeed. heck I can get mac valves locally for 40 dollars with fittings!!!! stupidity to run MBC unless its in a hybrid boost control setup like what tscomp tom does

NightCat

Dont forget that I'm at 6000+ ft Elevation........it doesn't help us make power :P

stunt2

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01sporty
I can't see such thing in your log
you have twin scroll 12cm housing or went with undivided T3 ?
in your map tracer screenshot spool seems too late, hitting peak load at 6K
imo too low for HX35 + 2.4
this kind of spool is more like HX40 on 2.0 (no offence)
what cams do you have ?

domyz

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Yeah sporty you first told us that you have full boost at 4k.
Thats why in the first place I tought this midrange timing was low (by mid range I meant high boost mid rpm). Look at your map at 4k high load, if you were to hit those cells, it would have been a very mild tune.
However like I said before, it's nice numbers for 91 so the cells your car use are on target.

EvoIXJDM

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Here is mine, I really appreciate your feedback:

Raptord

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Needs some smoothing (between 135 and 150 load in particular, also 70-80 load. And at 4k rpm between 195 and 225 load your timing goes 4-5-4. Use the graph function, should be a good visual aid to get that dialed in. Other than that it seems pretty reasonable, we'd have to see a log to see what your load curve looks like to confirm.

steven121

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How do you control knock when going light throttle and slowly enter boost? Sometimes when im in the highway i be on the throttle around 4k and be in 5 psi of boost and knock.
Do i control that with closed loop and open loop at a certain throttle percentage?

Do alit of you tune open loop or closed loop completely for your car? Like use the entire map besudes letting the front o2 take over