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Old Jan 1, 2008, 02:12 PM
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Originally Posted by GTLocke13
There's a crimp tool you need for these connectors too. And its gonna run you a lot more than $1.22.
For just one pin, I'd probably roll the crimps with pliers and solder it.
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Originally Posted by Jack_of_Trades
Pop out pin 64 and measure the square tip. It's probably 1.8mm x 2.3mm(or 2.5mm). To pop out the pin, take a presicion flathead screwdriver (glasses repair type) and pop up the white plastic rectangle holder on the top of the harness. It will come up about a 1/16" at the most. Its just enough to allow the pin to slide out. NExt, just take the screwdriver and lift up the plastic clip holding the pin in from the front of the connector. I hope that made SOME sense,lol.
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No sure if this is the one?

You don't take the entire white body out, just lift it about 1/16" inch as Jamie mentioned


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Originally Posted by mrfred
For just one pin, I'd probably roll the crimps with pliers and solder it.
that's exactly what i would do.
Old Jan 1, 2008, 02:49 PM
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Originally Posted by mrfred
For just one pin, I'd probably roll the crimps with pliers and solder it.
Yeah, thats what I will probably do too. I'm cheap

The 94170014 rom is the P0300 CEL fix ROM my car came with when I bought it.
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Originally Posted by Jack_of_Trades
Yeah, thats what I will probably do too. I'm cheap

The 94170014 rom is the P0300 CEL fix ROM my car came with when I bought it.
oh, that's the fix for P0300... roms are interchangeable
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nice work Jamie!!

ok any reason why you don't run 94170015? not a big deal but it helps if I don't have to do so many ROMID's

Right so lets get the logic down:

When ADC0F > 0x00F0 (4.7v) the ECU will use the Altmap(Meth)
When ADC0F == 0x0000 (0v) the ECU will use the standard maps(NoMeth)
+ Instant switching

This means in the future we can interpolate between the 2 maps as well. I choose greater than 4.7v just incase the methbox can't provide a nice flat 5v. Presumably it can provide 0v pretty easy?

Sound ok? Or would you like a safety delay for activating meth maps, just incase the methbox is flip/flopping?

If someone can do up a HOWTO: For wiring a switch to supply 5v to the right pin for 88590013/4/5's then non meth users can also use the altmap stuff

Cheers
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I know, just prefer to keep my 0014 ROM since Tephra has to write the code into one of the ROM's anyways
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Originally Posted by tephra
nice work Jamie!!

ok any reason why you don't run 94170015? not a big deal but it helps if I don't have to do so many ROMID's

Right so lets get the logic down:

When ADC0F > 0x00F0 (4.7v) the ECU will use the Altmap(Meth)
When ADC0F == 0x0000 (0v) the ECU will use the standard maps(NoMeth)
+ Instant switching

This means in the future we can interpolate between the 2 maps as well. I choose greater than 4.7v just incase the methbox can't provide a nice flat 5v. Presumably it can provide 0v pretty easy?

Sound ok? Or would you like a safety delay for activating meth maps, just incase the methbox is flip/flopping?

If someone can do up a HOWTO: For wiring a switch to supply 5v to the right pin for 88590013/4/5's then non meth users can also use the altmap stuff

Cheers
D.
That sounds fine to me. Can you have it so anything between 2V-5V technically triggers the alt map? Might be easier for some people to use depending on the voltage of their triggering setup. If not, no biggie.

I think a full one second delay is safe enough, better than having no failsafes at all

I can do a write-up this week on how to make a 5V voltage regulator circuit.

If there isn't any difference between the 0014 and 0015 ROM's, I have no problems. I'm just comfortable with all the info I searched and found for my particular ROM ID (i.e; 2 byte mods, MUT tables, stuff like that).
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Originally Posted by tephra
nice work Jamie!!

ok any reason why you don't run 94170015? not a big deal but it helps if I don't have to do so many ROMID's

Right so lets get the logic down:

When ADC0F > 0x00F0 (4.7v) the ECU will use the Altmap(Meth)
When ADC0F == 0x0000 (0v) the ECU will use the standard maps(NoMeth)
+ Instant switching

This means in the future we can interpolate between the 2 maps as well. I choose greater than 4.7v just incase the methbox can't provide a nice flat 5v. Presumably it can provide 0v pretty easy?

Sound ok? Or would you like a safety delay for activating meth maps, just incase the methbox is flip/flopping?

If someone can do up a HOWTO: For wiring a switch to supply 5v to the right pin for 88590013/4/5's then non meth users can also use the altmap stuff

Cheers
D.

Sounds like Sex on a beach!

Jamie, why a full 1 sec...why not go .5secs.
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Could I suppose.
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Most of our mapswitch output has already got a delay incorporates to prevent false triggering. Is it possible to make the delay as little as manageable?
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well its easier for me to not do the safety flipflop thing, so if the various methbox's can ensure a clean signal then thats better for me...

up to you guys!
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Just nix the whole delay thing if it's too much trouble. HAving the delay incorporated makes it a more reliable, better utilized system though. One less complaint down the road.

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