Autosmoothing tool for Fuel and Ignition Maps
Aug 21, 2008, 07:51 PM
#34
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Really? I copied it directly from the 88590015
But I can see it in the map below ... which is only 19 columns ... tell me there are two versions of the MIVEC map too.
But I can see it in the map below ... which is only 19 columns ... tell me there are two versions of the MIVEC map too.
Aug 21, 2008, 08:17 PM
#35
newb question...
I tried out the new map smoothing version w/ the Mivec tonight... Boy does my Mivec "look" like it needs to be smoothed. Im noticing that its retarding my values quite a bit... My question what is the benefit of smoothing this table? Will smoother necessarily be better, or net me higher #'s w/ this map? I understand the concept w/ the timing maps and fuel, but not exactly familiar w/ Mivec...
I tried out the new map smoothing version w/ the Mivec tonight... Boy does my Mivec "look" like it needs to be smoothed. Im noticing that its retarding my values quite a bit... My question what is the benefit of smoothing this table? Will smoother necessarily be better, or net me higher #'s w/ this map? I understand the concept w/ the timing maps and fuel, but not exactly familiar w/ Mivec...
Aug 21, 2008, 09:20 PM
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Wait a sec ... that is a timing table up there there ... [sigh] ok so it is 20 col I shouldn't work this late after playing soccer. I'll fix it tomorrow but I am still confused on what the stock load numbers are. Apparently I'm looking at 88590015-v5.10 which I got from the Wiki download section. Is that one perhaps using modded load values compared to the stock map?
ok goodnight.
ok goodnight.
Aug 21, 2008, 11:21 PM
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STOCK MIVEC VALUES:
Load:
10
20
30
40
50
60
70
80
90
100
120
140
160
180
200
220
240
260
280
300
RPM:
500
750
1000
1250
1500
2000
2500
3000
3500
4000
4500
5000
5500
6000
6500
7000
20x16
Load:
10
20
30
40
50
60
70
80
90
100
120
140
160
180
200
220
240
260
280
300
RPM:
500
750
1000
1250
1500
2000
2500
3000
3500
4000
4500
5000
5500
6000
6500
7000
20x16
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Aug 22, 2008, 02:23 AM
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EVO IX EDM 2006:
- VVT Map1 Horizontal: 0,10,20,30,40.....260,280
Vertical: 500,750,1000, 1250, 1500, 2000, 2500, 3000... and it goes from 500 to 500 till 7000
- VVT Map1 Horizontal: 0,10,20,30,40.....260,280
Vertical: 500,750,1000, 1250, 1500, 2000, 2500, 3000... and it goes from 500 to 500 till 7000
Aug 22, 2008, 04:08 AM
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ok so the point is, they are both 16x20 right?
.... well then I'm going readjust the table to have it starting at 10 since I'm betting that is more common on this board; if that is not true I'm willing to go the other direction. So all you IX EDM folks need to do is relabel the load/rpm values if you don't want to be confused. They don't actually impact the smoothing.
.... well then I'm going readjust the table to have it starting at 10 since I'm betting that is more common on this board; if that is not true I'm willing to go the other direction. So all you IX EDM folks need to do is relabel the load/rpm values if you don't want to be confused. They don't actually impact the smoothing.
Aug 22, 2008, 05:27 AM
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You don't have to copy/paste until there are no changes in the map ... 2-3 iterations should be more than enough in most cases (depending on the original map). Smoothing too many times could bring down or increase values that really should have stayed the same.
Aug 22, 2008, 05:47 AM
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Holy jeez, you really went to town on my spreadsheet! haha!
I like what you have done with the spreadsheet. Funny how when
I originally created it, I only used it to look at the colors, literally.
It is easier to see what is going on when you have colors than
looking at a sea of numbers.
After a while, I eventually stopped using it because I was getting
really good at smoothing it myself without the aid of a graph. Kinda
like the Matrix, at first you see the green code, then after some time
you see the woman in the red dress! Woot.
Nice Job Jumper. Took it a lot farther than I ever would have.
I like what you have done with the spreadsheet. Funny how when
I originally created it, I only used it to look at the colors, literally.
It is easier to see what is going on when you have colors than
looking at a sea of numbers.
After a while, I eventually stopped using it because I was getting
really good at smoothing it myself without the aid of a graph. Kinda
like the Matrix, at first you see the green code, then after some time
you see the woman in the red dress! Woot.
Nice Job Jumper. Took it a lot farther than I ever would have.
Aug 22, 2008, 07:01 AM
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BTW Tkkle, that worksheet has also helped with my ECU based boost control tuning. I had a pretty solid TBEC table worked out, but I decided to see how it would look in graph form. It was okay, but I made some tweaks based on the curve I wanted and it works even better now. No clue why I never thought to graph it before.
Aug 22, 2008, 08:06 AM
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BTW Tkkle, that worksheet has also helped with my ECU based boost control tuning. I had a pretty solid TBEC table worked out, but I decided to see how it would look in graph form. It was okay, but I made some tweaks based on the curve I wanted and it works even better now. No clue why I never thought to graph it before.
Excellent! When I originally did the boost control thing using the stock BCS, I used excel to get it tuned correctly. I wrote a couple of formulas and what not, and eventually got Excel to tell me what I should set my values to.
It's amazing how when something is put in picture form how much easier it is to comprehend.