TephraMOD V6 - testing!
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with TPS map switching you NEED/MUST disable Valet mode...
activation/deactivation is exactly the same as Valet, so RPM MUST = 0 (ie car off)
boost drop - yup drops to 0wgdc, when timer expires the bwgdc is returned (not smoothly interpolated)
ALTHOUGH - I believe the ECU smooths it a little, if you log RPM/TPS/WGDC you will see a slight small jumping affect rather than one huge leap for mankind :P
Someone log it and post please
I still need someone to verify that ADC0F map switching is working OR broken
activation/deactivation is exactly the same as Valet, so RPM MUST = 0 (ie car off)
boost drop - yup drops to 0wgdc, when timer expires the bwgdc is returned (not smoothly interpolated)
ALTHOUGH - I believe the ECU smooths it a little, if you log RPM/TPS/WGDC you will see a slight small jumping affect rather than one huge leap for mankind :P
Someone log it and post please
I still need someone to verify that ADC0F map switching is working OR broken
One more question on boost drop, so when it drops to 0 wgdc for the timer amount, I take it error correction is turned off for that same amount of time as well?
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The launch maps are bad ***! after a little bit of tweaking I was able to consistently knock out 1.6's and 1.7 60's last night while I felt out the new clutch.
This is my launch map (suggestions are welcome):
and for comparision, my race/pump mix map (its definitly a work in progress):
I can have ~280-300 load in about a second with the setup like that and the stationary limiter @ 7500. With the regular launch setup, takes about 5 seconds to get to 250ish load.
This is my launch map (suggestions are welcome):
and for comparision, my race/pump mix map (its definitly a work in progress):
I can have ~280-300 load in about a second with the setup like that and the stationary limiter @ 7500. With the regular launch setup, takes about 5 seconds to get to 250ish load.
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The launch maps are bad ***! after a little bit of tweaking I was able to consistently knock out 1.6's and 1.7 60's last night while I felt out the new clutch.
I can have ~280-300 load in about a second with the setup like that and the stationary limiter @ 7500. With the regular launch setup, takes about 5 seconds to get to 250ish load.
I can have ~280-300 load in about a second with the setup like that and the stationary limiter @ 7500. With the regular launch setup, takes about 5 seconds to get to 250ish load.
I imagine smoothing it would help with the knock a bit, but did you try any lower numbers? (the more retard the more expanding gas in the exhaust, etc).
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Did you try static/lower values for the launch map? All I had heard before we specifically had the launch map was to drop timing to -5 in the 2-step RPM areas and from ~80-150 load. This just produced knock for me while launching and running at the time, so I didn't keep it.
I imagine smoothing it would help with the knock a bit, but did you try any lower numbers? (the more retard the more expanding gas in the exhaust, etc).
I imagine smoothing it would help with the knock a bit, but did you try any lower numbers? (the more retard the more expanding gas in the exhaust, etc).
Its still a bit of a work in progress, i'm having a hard time getting the load to stay inside a +-50 window, I'll probably work on that a bit sunday at IFO.
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^That's funny fostyou, i was about to mention the same about the MUT tables being off in my 15rom. should it be as it is in the 2-byte thread, because i got this instead:
88590015
2byte load
MUT 00 = 8450
MUT 01 = 8451
2byte RPM
MUT 02 = 6B7F
MUT 03 = 6B1F
2byte AirFlow
MUT 04 = 6D85
MUT 05 = 6DA7
should it be like this???
^That's funny fostyou, i was about to mention the same about the MUT tables being off in my 15rom. should it be as it is in the 2-byte thread, because i got this instead:
88590015
2byte load
MUT 00 = 6B42
MUT 01 =6B43
2byte RPM
MUT 02 = 6B1E
MUT 03 = 6B1F
2byte AirFlow
MUT 04 = 6B9E
MUT 05 = 6B9F
88590015
2byte load
MUT 00 = 8450
MUT 01 = 8451
2byte RPM
MUT 02 = 6B7F
MUT 03 = 6B1F
2byte AirFlow
MUT 04 = 6D85
MUT 05 = 6DA7
should it be like this???
^That's funny fostyou, i was about to mention the same about the MUT tables being off in my 15rom. should it be as it is in the 2-byte thread, because i got this instead:
88590015
2byte load
MUT 00 = 6B42
MUT 01 =6B43
2byte RPM
MUT 02 = 6B1E
MUT 03 = 6B1F
2byte AirFlow
MUT 04 = 6B9E
MUT 05 = 6B9F
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OK I found two issues while driving around today on the 9653 ROM. Those two issue are the WGDC 100% below threshold does not work, it always 0% under that value. Also under deceleration my car is jerking back and forth, the wideband is reading fuel in the 13's for about 8-10 seconds then it goes flat line and the car smooths out.
Here are the logs from the pulls, the first one is a third gear pull and you can see both situations here, no WGDC untill 200% load, then under decel you can see how the wideband is reading, almost like the car is injecting fuel with crazy high timing. The second one is just daily driving so you can see there is no WGDC until 200% or more (which is where my threshold is set).
Log 1
Log 2
Anyone else having this issue?
Any help would be appreciated.
~Zach
Here are the logs from the pulls, the first one is a third gear pull and you can see both situations here, no WGDC untill 200% load, then under decel you can see how the wideband is reading, almost like the car is injecting fuel with crazy high timing. The second one is just daily driving so you can see there is no WGDC until 200% or more (which is where my threshold is set).
Log 1
Log 2
Anyone else having this issue?
Any help would be appreciated.
~Zach
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After some thinking and talking with danl we think my issue might have something to do with the p0505 and periphery bit I turned off FCA bit 8. I will switch that back tomorrow and see what happens.
Any idea why that would effect the WGDC mod?
Other than that the only mod that might effect this is the OBDII stuff, if the periphery bit that I will change tomorrow doesn't fix it I will set that back to factory as well and test.
to be continued....
Any idea why that would effect the WGDC mod?
Other than that the only mod that might effect this is the OBDII stuff, if the periphery bit that I will change tomorrow doesn't fix it I will set that back to factory as well and test.
to be continued....
Last edited by phenem; May 30, 2009 at 06:30 PM.
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^ is there a threshold to activate 100% WGDC. eg: you need 100% TPS to to engage this feature...If so, notice you do have 1 data point that reaches 100%WGDC, but since your load jumps from 180 beyond 200%, your WGDC defaults to your settings arcross the remaining RPM range. I'm not sure how 100% TPS is suppose to work. Does anyone out there testing have a log of this feature at work. I'm currently testing the 15rom
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^ is there a threshold to activate 100% WGDC. eg: you need 100% TPS to to engage this feature...If so, notice you do have 1 data point that reaches 100%WGDC, but since your load jumps from 180 beyond 200%, your WGDC defaults to your settings arcross the remaining RPM range. I'm not sure how 100% TPS is suppose to work. Does anyone out there testing have a log of this feature at work. I'm currently testing the 15rom
Having it only active when TPS = 100 would be kind of pointless because stock turbo type applications would reach full boost so fast the BCS will need to kick in and adjust boost almost instantly (as you can see from my maps)
Can someone else confirm which way the logic is supposed to operate?
Last edited by phenem; May 30, 2009 at 06:41 PM.
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No, I can definitely say that the instant you reach the "min load for boost control value" WGDC goes to 100% until the instant you hit the WGDC 100% below threshold and then it goes to whatever is in your maps.
Here is an example log for you.
http://thefrost.net/randomfiles/tuni...0_02.22.24.csv
There is also a description here:
http://evoecu.logic.net/wiki/TephraMod#Boost_Control
Last edited by fostytou; May 30, 2009 at 09:50 PM.