TephraMOD V6 - testing!
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well your first port of call is doing the comparison of the various knock maps.
check jcsbank's thread for information.
but knocksum is DIRECTLY derived from those knock maps - so if your getting knock NOW - then the maps must be different, in which case you can probably just copy the maps over...
check jcsbank's thread for information.
but knocksum is DIRECTLY derived from those knock maps - so if your getting knock NOW - then the maps must be different, in which case you can probably just copy the maps over...
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No, I have them for 96940011, but just the adder / low/med/hi - and gain settings for 96530006. Must be missing something. Or the actual filter tables I have for 96940011 are just out-moded and I don't have the matching addresses for that rom since I've been carrying my xml for some time now.
well your first port of call is doing the comparison of the various knock maps.
check jcsbank's thread for information.
but knocksum is DIRECTLY derived from those knock maps - so if your getting knock NOW - then the maps must be different, in which case you can probably just copy the maps over...
check jcsbank's thread for information.
but knocksum is DIRECTLY derived from those knock maps - so if your getting knock NOW - then the maps must be different, in which case you can probably just copy the maps over...
I think there may be something going on with this ROM as well. I, too, get knock in that area, but what I hate even more is that SD IPW issue that I see with this ROM. I don't know if it's just this ROM as I haven't really seen any logs from others running SD on other ROMs.
I do wish 96940011 had room for the tephramods as well, but I will stick with 96530006 for now. I have no many changes and things wired into the ECU now, that I can't switch back, since the patches aren't available for 96940011.
Eric
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There's nothing regular about this phantom knock on the 9653 rom.
Im def going to check that out. I'll report back about it vs my old 94170015 rom.
And yes, 3 counts here, partial throttle, on, off, etc. I can cruise for 45 miles, great, and then if I pull over and let the car idle, throws the CEL. Look in the logs, and find out the knock count of 10's etc, are from 20 minutes prior, during the cruise period, not at idle...
Why would it take so long for the CEL light to throw...?
I adjusted the "Max Total Upward WGDC Correction VS. TPS" ...the last two colums were 10 and 10, everything else zero. So i brought the last two ones down to 2.5, and 5.0.
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The knock tables are identical between the two ROMs.
I think there may be something going on with this ROM as well. I, too, get knock in that area, but what I hate even more is that SD IPW issue that I see with this ROM. I don't know if it's just this ROM as I haven't really seen any logs from others running SD on other ROMs.
I do wish 96940011 had room for the tephramods as well, but I will stick with 96530006 for now. I have no many changes and things wired into the ECU now, that I can't switch back, since the patches aren't available for 96940011.
Eric
I think there may be something going on with this ROM as well. I, too, get knock in that area, but what I hate even more is that SD IPW issue that I see with this ROM. I don't know if it's just this ROM as I haven't really seen any logs from others running SD on other ROMs.
I do wish 96940011 had room for the tephramods as well, but I will stick with 96530006 for now. I have no many changes and things wired into the ECU now, that I can't switch back, since the patches aren't available for 96940011.
Eric
The main concern on my car is 1 byte load. It reads bullsh*t on my car. I can push 30+psi and nearly 50lbs/min through it and come up with 260 load.
Pro hides airflow. I know this, but come on... on 9694 I was seeing near 300 load at 25psi. The reason I'm worried is Pro locks down IAT at 80* and does it's own temp comp. So it should be a more stable load reading - as the temp is always unchanging.
It just reads where I'm playing "guess a cell" tuning. And I'm not having fun with it.
On the old rom this just wasn't the case. Which is why I'm getting so frustrated trying to kick the ghosts out of the new rom. My customers car acted the same way. It had a horrible tune on it on (96940011) and didn't knock like this. Put 9653 on it and all it wanted to do is knock at part throttle.
I knocked 40 points out of the decay and it seemed to help... slightly. But IMO this isn't the answer. I WANT to know if the car is knocking. And turning the volume down seems like sticking my fingers in my ears and going "la la la la". So until I know there is increased sensitivity, and I'm just going down to where I was before. I'm extremely hesitant to touch knock tables. It's not how I have ever approached tuning. So it puts me in a genuinely uncomfortable position.
I am getting increasingly frustrated with it, but make no mistake - 0 of it is directed your way David. I can't believe you are still supporting these roms considering you don't even have a car they work on. And your work is greatly appreciated by all of us. Just to be 100% clear.
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It almost sounds like maybe the rom flash you are using has some bad code in it. Have you tried a fresh rom and (yes it is a pain) starting from scratch?
I ask this because when I first upgraded to the 94170015, I had a bad flash. The car ran like poop. I simply downloaded a fresh rom and started over. All has been good since.
I ask this because when I first upgraded to the 94170015, I had a bad flash. The car ran like poop. I simply downloaded a fresh rom and started over. All has been good since.
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Its probably not the flash and more "old car syndrome". I used to have "phantom knock" issues in my DSM and I fixed it with not code changes. As the evo's change this will become a more prevalent problem and the ones who cut their teeth on the older 4g63's will have a distinct advantage here.