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Old Aug 24, 2013 | 12:59 PM
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Old Aug 24, 2013 | 11:29 PM
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I guess it's overly rich. Injector scaling is stock but Map kPa -> Load is overly rich while RPM VE is stock. Try KPA to LOAD at 1:1 for a starting point:
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Old Aug 31, 2013 | 11:32 PM
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I guess it's overly rich. Injector scaling is stock but Map kPa -> Load is overly rich while RPM VE is stock. Try KPA to LOAD at 1:1 for a starting point:
I'v try it also not working !!!!
when I press gas pedal its like cut fuel and mixture goes over 20 when I take it off the car normal .......
Old Sep 1, 2013 | 07:58 AM
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I'v try it also not working !!!!
when I press gas pedal its like cut fuel and mixture goes over 20 when I take it off the car normal .......
Post a log of that issue and record all the following: AFR, Injector duty, Map KPA, TPS, RPM, Load.
Old Dec 25, 2013 | 08:48 PM
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Need some advice, seeing my low fuel trim is -12.5 thru closed loop area. Before going to SD with MAF on I didn't modify the values, should I go back to MAF to modify the maf scaling or is there an alternative way to get those down in the SD map without putting the MAF back on? Car drives fine, but every one in a while I get a o2 sensor check engine that bank 1 is rich and im pretty sure because o2 feedback is pulling too much fuel in closed loop.
Old Dec 26, 2013 | 09:53 AM
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NM, after further digging, i think they may be stuck at that value although feedback is on and only bounces around between +4 and -4. I guess another question for those running open loop are you using the bit or just doing it via the 4 open loop tables.
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how long did this take all together? And how long would it take for me a tuning noob to do this?
Old Jan 2, 2014 | 05:27 PM
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how long did this take all together? And how long would it take for me a tuning noob to do this?

Are you well versed with tuning MAF?
Old Jan 2, 2014 | 05:50 PM
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how long did this take all together? And how long would it take for me a tuning noob to do this?
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Are you well versed with tuning MAF?

^^ If the answer is yes, since you're a first timer on SD I'd say 3-4 hours and 95% of the tune is done. It WILL require some final tweaking for cold starts and fuel trims, but the car will be perfectly enjoyable.
Old Jan 3, 2014 | 04:09 AM
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Well.... I have not done any tuning at all before... I'm pretty good at picking things up and I know the basics of tuning and the equipment. It's just a matter of getting the tactrix cable and evoscan and doing some pulls to get my feet a little wet...
Old Jan 3, 2014 | 07:00 AM
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I'll go ahead and say its not going to happen that easily, especially if you are not familiar at all.
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I'll go ahead and say its not going to happen that easily, especially if you are not familiar at all.
^^this...


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Old Jan 17, 2014 | 09:47 PM
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can someone help me shift my kpa values right in the load scale? I've tried raising rpm ve, making 300kpa = 500load and all in between... nothing. I cannot get above a 240 load value even at 800whp and 45psi on a 6266... which is making tuning a ****ING ***** trying to only use half of my maps. HELLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLP

For instance, here is a log at 30psi. notice 300kpa is only about 220load. Even worse, like 120kpa is equaling 60 load ect ect. I've tried changing the final values in MAP VE to great extents either way and nothing moves ( in my mind, making a lower kpa equal a higher load would obviously move it right, RIGHT?~?~) I've tried raising RPM VE 10 or so points and it doesn't move, all it does is peg my gauge rich. WHAT DO I DO?

IN other words, what is the ECU using to calculate load? Is there a formula or scaling that I'm missing? all my PSI based stuff is changed to my omni4bar settings. Everything works perfectly as far as my hybrid boost setup and controlling boost so I'd like to believe my scalings are all proper. I just don't know what I'm doing wrong and could use some guru help. THANKS A BILLION.

I'll also note that my current tune has 3000-8000 RPM VE around the stock 98-101 values and not the 80's listed here. still same curve.

My problem of course is having to alter my timing maps DRAMATICALLY trying to shift my curve left to compensate for the load issue, as it was trying to hit spool up in the 15-25* range from a normal load ranged map.


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Old Jan 18, 2014 | 12:55 PM
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can someone help me shift my kpa values right in the load scale? I've tried raising rpm ve, making 300kpa = 500load and all in between... nothing. I cannot get above a 240 load value even at 800whp and 45psi on a 6266... which is making tuning a ****ING ***** trying to only use half of my maps. HELLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLP

For instance, here is a log at 30psi. notice 300kpa is only about 220load. Even worse, like 120kpa is equaling 60 load ect ect. I've tried changing the final values in MAP VE to great extents either way and nothing moves ( in my mind, making a lower kpa equal a higher load would obviously move it right, RIGHT?~?~) I've tried raising RPM VE 10 or so points and it doesn't move, all it does is peg my gauge rich. WHAT DO I DO?

IN other words, what is the ECU using to calculate load? Is there a formula or scaling that I'm missing? all my PSI based stuff is changed to my omni4bar settings. Everything works perfectly as far as my hybrid boost setup and controlling boost so I'd like to believe my scalings are all proper. I just don't know what I'm doing wrong and could use some guru help. THANKS A BILLION.

I'll also note that my current tune has 3000-8000 RPM VE around the stock 98-101 values and not the 80's listed here. still same curve.

My problem of course is having to alter my timing maps DRAMATICALLY trying to shift my curve left to compensate for the load issue, as it was trying to hit spool up in the 15-25* range from a normal load ranged map.

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Old Jan 18, 2014 | 02:26 PM
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Maybe something is messed up in your ROM or XML (brainstorming guesses: scaling, axis adress, 1 byte load factor, MAF, SD bug(not likely)).

I'd try a new version of each one (XMLs and SD ROM) and copy over your relevant tables for testing.

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