logic

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Hi guys,

So, I've been completely unable to locate a source for new M(6244-1121) plugs: they're the male (ie. under-dash) side of the flashing/diag connector on our cars and late 2g DSMs, or the primary diagnostic (ALDL) connection on 1g DSMs and early Evos.

Sumitomo still produces the female side, F(6244-5121), and the pins for it (F(8240-4849), F(8240-4412), F(8240-4422), or F(8240-4652)) but unless the part number has changed, I can't find the male version anywhere, or even a footprint-compatible version with more pin positions.

For the archives, they're Sumitomo "outdated" MT-series connectors. I've documented the part numbers I've been able to locate on the wiki.

Yes, I know I can get these out of junkyard 1g DSMs. I'd rather be able to find a source of new plugs though; it's really odd that they're out of production, given that Mitsubishi was using them on Evos in multiple countries all the way through at least 2006. The only reference I've found to the male part number, though, mentioned that they may have been a special run just for them (which is weird, since they make the female plug available to the general public).

acamus

Maybe you should try to locate it in Molex or AMP product line.

M(6244-1121)
https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/3919240-post41.html
https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/ec...an-98-a-3.html
http://forums.openecu.org/download/f...b22da1f092b184

http://www.sumitomoconnector.com/

0xDEAD

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They have to be somewhere as they are being used to produce flash cables.

logic

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0xDEAD: The female ends are used for the flash cables, and yeah, they look pretty easy to get ahold of (along with a variety of pins, depending on cable sizes, etc). The male housing, though (ie. the in-car side of the connection, rather than the flash cable), seems pretty much impossible to locate.

acamus: Yep, saw all of those links. But it never even occurred to me to check Tyco's or Molex's lineups; once I had an SWS part number, I just ran with it. I'll spend some time today or tomorrow looking through their catalogs. Again. Blargh.

keydiver

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I should have an answer in a couple days. I don't believe the original equipment manufacturer was Sumitomo. At least that's not who my Mitsubishi contact hooked me up with for the male ends I bought.

Ceddy

I have been using an audio connector to plug directly into the OP 2.0.

I would be interested in the real flash plugs if anyone finds a place that will sell them in small quantitys.

logic

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Jeff, you're my new hero if you can find those things. I thought Sumitomo as a manufacturer was a little weird, but I've seen other connectors from them in my service manuals, so it wasn't so weird that I didn't consider them as a source.

My eyes were bleeding after staring at product catalogs over the last couple of days; I don't think it's a current Molex offering at this point (I don't see anything with a 4mm center pitch in a 2-row 12-position configuration, and I don't recall seeing anything from Molex in any of the service manuals I have), although it could be a Tyco or JAE part; both have disgustingly extensive product lineups, and Mitsu seems to really like Tyco/AMP connectors.

CAPS/ASA was mostly unhelpful; it doesn't seem to even acknowledge the existence of that part as a separate item (both CAPS/ASA and the service manuals have a few pages worth of connectors along with their original manufacturer and part number, if you scrounge around a bit). I found something that might be it in the 1g catalog (MB529461, or "BLOCK,CHASSIS HARNESS JUNCTION", which seems to match up with the service manual description); it's a $5 from JNZ, so if you're unable to find something, I might just order that and see what it is. I found nothing at all in either the service manuals or CAPS for 2gs or Evos.

Ceddy, quick question for you: do you know if earlier 2gs (95/96) had that 12-position plug? My '99 has it (obviously ), but I don't have a '95 or '96 around that I can check. (This is mostly a point of curiosity for me, no big deal if you don't know off the top of your head.)

turbolarry

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I've used this place;
http://www.multiplex-engineering.com...20products.htm
Male OBD-II block is half way down the page and male pins are below that.

logic

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Thanks, but we aren't talking about the OBD-II port (you can get those from quite a few manufacturers, including Tyco and Molex). We're talking about the male (in-car) side of the white flash connector from the OpenPort cable.

Ceddy

The 95-97 don't have Flash plug, need to add it.
The pin is missing from the ecu plug also.

logic

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A gift to everyone, and it covers a lot more than just the 12-position connector I was looking for: http://www.mcausa.com/automotive.html

I actually have Tom Dorris to thank for that; he was asking around about (I believe) a 1g MAF connector back in 2006, and ended up coming across that.

Ceddy

Nice find!




C12 the flash connector?


Do you know if they will sell small quantities or have a reseller?

acamus

Thank you logic. Really hard to find.

logic

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Actually, I think it's from the CS series; CS12F; the one you posted looks mirrored from what we want for the flash connector.

That, I don't know. I shot them an email asking if they could point me at a low-volume supplier.

Also, another choice: http://www.easternbeaver.com/ It's a Canadian fellow living in Japan, who apparently does quite a bit of business selling odd wiring contraptions for Japanese bikes. Specifically, he stocks Sumitomo 090 MT-series connectors, pin-compatible with the flash connector.

03whitegsr

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NICE! GREAT find! Thanks for the link!

I've been looking for a couple connectors.