Notices
ECU Flash

Squash my knock!

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Jul 8, 2010, 07:58 PM
  #16  
Evolved Member
iTrader: (10)
 
Raptord's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Gatineau, Quebec, Canada
Posts: 3,525
Received 19 Likes on 14 Posts
I don't have knock sum decay timer either - I'm running Tephra V7 on 88590015, so 88590715.
Old Jul 8, 2010, 08:04 PM
  #17  
Evolved Member
iTrader: (22)
 
Appauldd's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: Northern KY near Cincy
Posts: 2,408
Likes: 0
Received 6 Likes on 6 Posts
8859 uses a slightly different approach. It has the "Knock Sensitivity Load Threshold" but does not have the decay timer.

Rather it uses "Knock Background Noise Multiplier" as it's method of knock sensitivity. Simply raising the values will desensitize the knock sensor. WARNING....raise the values too much, you won't know if you are hitting knock or not.
Old Jul 8, 2010, 08:29 PM
  #18  
Evolved Member
iTrader: (10)
 
Raptord's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Gatineau, Quebec, Canada
Posts: 3,525
Received 19 Likes on 14 Posts
Ok, thanks.

Regarding tip-in knock. I initially had some and had a heck of a time getting it dialed out. I would keep lowering timing and making the transitions as smooth as I could, it would still be there. Then I read in a thread about someone else having a similar problem who actually RAISED timing, which made the knock go away. At the time I read this, my problem area had timing values nearly 10* lower than other maps I was seeing with similar mods/octane. I raised timing about 5* in my problem area and the car immediately stopped knocking there. I'm still messing around with the map, but it's definitely much better now. All that to say, sometimes too low of a timing can also cause knock, however I don't believe that to be the case here for your car Akeric, as the timing you're running appears normal/comparable with other maps I've seen.
Old Jul 8, 2010, 09:53 PM
  #19  
Evolving Member
 
widge's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: Australia
Posts: 478
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Originally Posted by Appauldd
The knock sum decay timer is there as a time for the knock count to linger. We lower the value to make the knock hit fast and go away fast. Makes pinpointing the problem area much, much easier.

Post what rom you have....we can find it for you.

Even if you don't have it though, you can still adjust the other tables as I stated. You should see knock improvements. I am willing to bet that your cams, springs, and retainers are creating a little more valve train noise that is being picked up as knock.
My thoughts exactly i only had these issues after the cams/springs etc was installed.

Im running V7 Tephra too with 96530706 Rom
Old Jul 8, 2010, 10:35 PM
  #20  
Evolved Member
iTrader: (9)
 
C6C6CH3vo's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: sc
Posts: 4,223
Likes: 0
Received 4 Likes on 4 Posts
Your crappy 91 alaska gas has much more potential than the 93 oct where I live, what's your avg IAT's?

Knock sensor harmonic tune is off once the engine is modified anyway so why waste time worrying about it, especially in load areas where cyl pressures are low. Just run methanol inj and pull the plug
Old Jul 9, 2010, 01:31 AM
  #21  
Evolved Member
iTrader: (30)
 
project_skyline's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: Colorado
Posts: 2,532
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Try smoothing timing between 100-140, its probably going off because your going from 18 degrees to 10 degrees, thats way too big of a gap!
Old Jul 10, 2010, 03:43 PM
  #22  
Evolving Member
Thread Starter
iTrader: (2)
 
akeric's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Alaska
Posts: 328
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
I"m going to start doing some testing with these suggestions. My rom is the tephra v7 for the evo ix, also my iats on a wot 3rd gear run do not go over ~100 degree f
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
blk-majik
Evo X Engine Management / Tuning Forums
23
Aug 16, 2012 04:20 PM
Windstorm
Evo X Engine Management / Tuning Forums
9
Apr 23, 2012 05:59 PM
Evo1001
ECU Flash
12
Feb 17, 2012 08:01 PM
vicbdn
ECU Flash
12
Jul 28, 2008 09:41 PM
krillin
ECU Flash
15
Feb 6, 2007 10:01 AM



Quick Reply: Squash my knock!



All times are GMT -7. The time now is 09:41 PM.