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Old May 8, 2013, 10:18 AM
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I know this tread is old but I just wanted to say thanks!
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I know this tread is old but i cant find that map scaling map in my TephraMod V7 rom

do i have to add it ?? i just ordered omni 3bar map sensor and i dont know what to do next
pls help guys

thnks a lot
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You may have to add the table defs to your xml. You should be able to find them here:

https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/ec...tructions.html
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so there is no table in tephramod 7 ??
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Yes it's there. You just need to add the definitions for the tables to your tephra xml.
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I though my gauge or Evoscan was jacked up till I read this. I'm reviving this...great post, man!
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i just referred to this oldy a week ago also.
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Glad to see it's still useful!
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Guys why I can't use stock 3 bar for sd conversation? Thanks
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The stock MAP sensor is 1bar, not 3bar. Being 1bar means it doesn't have the range of operation that's needed to measure the amount of boost our cars run.
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Thank you Raptord.
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Originally Posted by Raptord
UPDATE: For anyone else who may be looking for scalings for the OMNI 3-bar, here are the settings that ended up working:



And here is the correct Evoscan equation: 0.17886 * x + 0.161 - y
where y = your local atmospheric pressure (14.7 at sea level)
Two questions:
1)
Why is this scaling not quite linear? How come it isn't:
24 (vs. 25)
48 (vs. 49)
72 (vs. 70)
96
120
144
168 (vs. 170)
192 (vs. 195)

2)
For EvoScan logging, I am adding a new item with that formula. I noticed there is already an Omni 4Bar item in my Tephra v7 XML, and it has a slightly different formula than yours (aside from the 4bar scale).
From this post, the 3Bar formula is: * x + 0.161 - y
In the Tephra XML, the 4Bar is: * x - y
What is the purpose of adding 0.161 to x for the 3bar sensor, and/or why does the 4bar item in Tephra XML not add 0.161?

Thanks!

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Originally Posted by jsmcpn
Two questions:
1)
Why is this scaling not quite linear? How come it isn't:
24 (vs. 25)
48 (vs. 49)
72 (vs. 70)
96
120
144
168 (vs. 170)
192 (vs. 195)

2)
For EvoScan logging, I am adding a new item with that formula. I noticed there is already an Omni 4Bar item in my Tephra v7 XML, and it has a slightly different formula than yours (aside from the 4bar scale).
From this post, the 3Bar formula is: * x + 0.161 - y
In the Tephra XML, the 4Bar is: * x - y
What is the purpose of adding 0.161 to x for the 3bar sensor, and/or why does the 4bar item in Tephra XML not add 0.161?

Thanks!
Regarding 1), frankly I don't know. I don't even remember how I got to the scaling I have now. I can check the logged values for my 3bar compared to my zeitronix sensor's reading to see if they match up perfectly, but I imagine I would have done that as well when I settled on those scalings. I suspect that changing them for the linear values you propose wouldn't change the logged value very much since they seem to be pretty close.

Concerning 2), I just wrote it like that to make it easier to start at what should be your local atmoshperic pressure and adjust from there. I could have written this instead, which leads to the same formula but is a bit more complicated to explain:

And here is the correct Evoscan equation: 0.17886 * x + y
where y = 0.161 - your local atmospheric pressure (14.7 at sea level)
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Originally Posted by Raptord
Regarding 1), frankly I don't know. I don't even remember how I got to the scaling I have now. I can check the logged values for my 3bar compared to my zeitronix sensor's reading to see if they match up perfectly, but I imagine I would have done that as well when I settled on those scalings. I suspect that changing them for the linear values you propose wouldn't change the logged value very much since they seem to be pretty close.

Concerning 2), I just wrote it like that to make it easier to start at what should be your local atmoshperic pressure and adjust from there. I could have written this instead, which leads to the same formula but is a bit more complicated to explain:
I'm still confused about #2... The 0.161 value, what does it mean and why does it only apply to the 3bar sensor and not the 4bar? Is there a 0.161 PSI offset in the sensor or something that the 4bar doesn't have?

I bought this sensor to use with the Grimspeed boost controller, FWIW, but I don't want to even try MAP-based boost control until the Omni 3bar is calibrated properly.

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