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Old Jun 7, 2011, 07:53 PM
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^ ouch! that looks nasty...

I change my plugs every 6 months or so. NGK copper 8's.
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What am I seeing in that pic? It looks like a firecracker tip to me.
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Originally Posted by Thoe99
What am I seeing in that pic? It looks like a firecracker tip to me.
rotted out plug wires lol. im guessing when he went to pull up the ignition system from the valve cover it just came apart like that.. i seen it on a lot of cars but never on the evo like that
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Originally Posted by Eisen7
OK I've made a few changes as per tscomp's suggestions in the v7 cold start thread. Basically all I've done is:

- Put a block of 12's back in the idle areas of the ign map rather than the higher values I had.
- Set "Desired ISCV intial step position with AC off-Neutral" to these settings https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/9129618-post30.html
- Set "Desired IDLE Rpm - neutral" all to 1000

Cold start is good and moves down to 1000rpm fairly quickly. It used to rev a bit higher, but my cold starts were generally OK anyway.

I've only driven to work on these settings this morning, but I could not reproduce the stutter/hopping at 1900rpm. Need more time to ensure it's not there. Note that I think the A/C idle might still need some work as it did dip below 1000rpm a couple of times when I switched the A/C on and let the revs drop from high rpm. Still it didn't stall which is a good sign
glad to see that worked on your car so far. hopefully you can fix the studder issue and get the ac working also. its possible its still there, but wont know until you do more driving.
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Just did a bit more experimenting then. It's stalling lots when you clutch in and roll to a stop with A/C off

Will send you some logs Tom
Old Jun 7, 2011, 10:49 PM
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but the jerks gone right? so id say to play with the AC on idle air controller tables.. but i have something else to test before those :P
Old Jun 8, 2011, 07:15 AM
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Originally Posted by tscompusa
rotted out plug wires lol. im guessing when he went to pull up the ignition system from the valve cover it just came apart like that.. i seen it on a lot of cars but never on the evo like that
Not rotted, burnt!!! The casing crumbled and the rest was dark brown. The plug that was on had the electrode nub on the spark gap totally burnt away. Also the ceramic was all brown. It was the same on the other plug that had a wire to it , the COP's were fine, no burnt ceramic and the electrodes looked fine on the spark gap. Just seeing that makes me want to go to a full COP set up.

Athanasios
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I've made a couple more tweaks to my settings and the stalling has improved. So far haven't been able to reproduce the stutter at 1900 ~30-40 load either, so that's good

My setup did not like these numbers in the ISCV with AC off table. It kept stalling on clutch in when rolling to a stop. The numbers at the lower temps did help drop the higher rpm at cold start, so I've left them there.

145
128
122
113
95
53
13
7

My new settings look like this:

145
128
122
113
95
75
35
25


I've also upped the idle timing areas to 14's. Im still not really sure how all of this can cure a part throttle stutter at 1900rpm though... But if it works, I'm happy
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the part throttle was more to do with the timing map i believe then anything else. keep it smooth as you possibly can. the clutch in stall is 100% iscv which you're fixing.

dont forget to tweak desired idle rpm also if need be.
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I'm really confused as to why you keep going back to your timing map to fix your A/C idle dip. Most of that can be fixed through the ISCV tables and Desired Idle RPM tables as long as your BISS screw is properly adjusted, TPS reads normal and you don't have any vacuum leaks.
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I am using the ISCV tables to chase the idle dip. The timing map changes is just to get the idle a bit more 'solid' as I have 272 cams. I think it's fairly common practise to bump the idle timing up a bit on cars with cams.
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