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Old Oct 12, 2012, 09:34 AM
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Mut33 I think ace..
Old Oct 12, 2012, 11:58 AM
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Originally Posted by 211ratsbud
Mut33 I think ace..
Thanks I'll log some this afternoon.
Old Oct 14, 2012, 06:12 PM
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I logged my timing map and it is lower than what's on the map. I don't get it. I'm getting 1's and 0's where I have 5's. No knock. I've zeroed out air temp comp tables. I also matched my lo-octane map to my hi-octane map so there isn't any interpolating between the two.
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Yep that's very familiar..
Old Oct 14, 2012, 06:41 PM
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Have you logs ALL the different loads? There is 3. Load_RAW, Load_BARO COMP, Load_BARO+TEMP COMP.

I have all the addresses if you need them.
Old Oct 14, 2012, 06:56 PM
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I've tried a few.. Listed earlier in this thread. They don't deviate far enough to warrant the change that is evident

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Old Oct 14, 2012, 07:43 PM
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Originally Posted by 211ratsbud
I've tried a few.. Listed earlier in this thread. They don't deviate far enough to warrant the change that is evident
I already know you did. I was talking to ace, as he has a different ROM and that may very well be his issue (logging wrong load). Its worth a try.

Your issue is weird, as I have had this happen before (timing differences), but have always figure it out, as its always the temp timing trim or wrong load logged.
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Originally Posted by Boosted Tuning
I already know you did. I was talking to ace, as he has a different ROM and that may very well be his issue (logging wrong load). Its worth a try.

Your issue is weird, as I have had this happen before (timing differences), but have always figure it out, as its always the temp timing trim or wrong load logged.
Roger that! I must be overlooking something myself. 8859 does it and 8858 I haven't gotten all my XML in order yet
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Originally Posted by Boosted Tuning
Have you logs ALL the different loads? There is 3. Load_RAW, Load_BARO COMP, Load_BARO+TEMP COMP.

I have all the addresses if you need them.
I'm just logging 1 byte load at request id 41. I'd like the other addresses, thanks!
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I've discovered 2 things

1. My 1 byte load gauge max and chart max is 270 and I'm hitting 280 and 290 now that I pushed my boost up to 27 from 25 psi. So I'll change that to like 300.

2. My Alt Ignition Map is seems a lot closer than my Regular Ignition map. Here's a pic of my tracer and Alt ignition map. I'll try matching my alt map to my regular ignition map and see if that affects it.

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Originally Posted by 10isace
I'm just logging 1 byte load at request id 41. I'd like the other addresses, thanks!
Here are the address. You have to enter them 2byte load style and log 2byte load to log them.

2byte load
MUT 00 = 895C
MUT 01 = 895D

2byte load + baro compensated = 8960 and 8961

2byte load + baro and IAT compensated = 8962 and 8963

Also, my evoscan is also set to the same chart & gauge max and it doesnt affect anything.

And there ways to check if you were on your alt map.
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How do you go about checking if your on your alt maps? Switching maps is just tps at x amount for x seconds correct?
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Originally Posted by Boosted Tuning
Here are the address. You have to enter them 2byte load style and log 2byte load to log them.

2byte load
MUT 00 = 895C
MUT 01 = 895D

2byte load + baro compensated = 8960 and 8961

2byte load + baro and IAT compensated = 8962 and 8963

Also, my evoscan is also set to the same chart & gauge max and it doesnt affect anything.

And there ways to check if you were on your alt map.
Thanks Jay!

I discovered that I was 4-5 cells low on the load reading. I almost flashed my rom with putting my desired timing in cells 4-5 cells higher than what my 1byte load was reading. I decided not to.

I logged 2byte load and my 1byte load was off like you (and I) suspected. I'm up in the 330's and 340's and my 1byte load was reading 280's at peak load. I realized I had 1.4 load factor on my rom and 1.2x* on my evoscan Eval. I changed my 1byte load in evoscan to read 1.4. I got the idea from reading your responses on https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/ec...ng-values.html

In that thread you say not to worry about the high load. This goes against what a lot of people say. It seems like a boost leak, which is very possible since I just did a HG job and installed a ix turbo. I also used new boost lines, but it had a slightly larger ID than the ones I replaced. I think it was 4mm and now it's 5mm ID. Anyhow, this did make a small boost leak at the BOV, but I double zip tied it, but I haven't done a boost leak test after the weather got colder here.
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Originally Posted by 10isace
Thanks Jay!

I discovered that I was 4-5 cells low on the load reading. I almost flashed my rom with putting my desired timing in cells 4-5 cells higher than what my 1byte load was reading. I decided not to.

I logged 2byte load and my 1byte load was off like you (and I) suspected. I'm up in the 330's and 340's and my 1byte load was reading 280's at peak load. I realized I had 1.4 load factor on my rom and 1.2x* on my evoscan Eval. I changed my 1byte load in evoscan to read 1.4. I got the idea from reading your responses on https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/ec...ng-values.html

In that thread you say not to worry about the high load. This goes against what a lot of people say. It seems like a boost leak, which is very possible since I just did a HG job and installed a ix turbo. I also used new boost lines, but it had a slightly larger ID than the ones I replaced. I think it was 4mm and now it's 5mm ID. Anyhow, this did make a small boost leak at the BOV, but I double zip tied it, but I haven't done a boost leak test after the weather got colder here.
Glad you figured out your issue.

A boost leak could be making your load higher. But you gotta understand, that things like intake filter and tube mess with the MAF readings and make load higher/lower. Also temps have an affect too. Example, in cold weather, 22psi will make 260 load, but in hot weather you need 25psi to make that same 260 load (on the same car).

But regardless, its always a good idea to do a boost leak test and make sure you are leak free.

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Old Oct 16, 2012, 11:56 AM
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well the problem was fixed only rescaling 1byte conversion number?


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