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Old Nov 15, 2016 | 12:58 AM
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Low Load @ 24 LBS of boost. 230 Max in logs...

Like it says. I am only seeing load numbers of 230 at the highest point in torque area, followed down to 200 Load at Top end, 8000 RPM. 24 PSI to redline. Seems a little low...
Can anyone advise? I am also on PSI boost, with an elevation atmosphere setting at 12.5(4400 ft.).

Stock rom, stock turbo, 21 lbs hits 250 load. Whats up?

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Old Nov 18, 2016 | 09:36 PM
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Old Nov 18, 2016 | 11:50 PM
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Because you're at altitude
Old Nov 19, 2016 | 02:32 AM
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No on MAF.

Because you're at altitude
Doesn't make sense. The stock numbers were at altitude as well.

Could this possibly be the efficiency of the FP RED vs the Stock TD05?
Old Nov 19, 2016 | 09:31 AM
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my peak load is 297 and tapers to about 250 29 psi. 7800 rpm
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Higher airflow, higher load. IF was more efficient, you'd see more airflow/load. Checked for leaks? Particularly between turbo and maf.
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Particularly between turbo and maf.
FP Intake. Tight as a turtle. Did have to rescale my MAF though, upwards of 2800 HZ. Could my calcs be wrong?
Old Nov 22, 2016 | 01:58 PM
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Show us your Load Multiplier values in ROM and EvoScan, plus your MAF scaling and MAF adder tables. I'm on an FP Green with FP intake + MAF and see max 2300 Hz at 32 psig corresponding to a Load1byte of 340. I guess you may have a mismatch between the Load Multiplier setting in your ROM and the one you use to log in EvoScan. Which load are you logging in EvoScan? Should be 1-byte.
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Show us your Load Multiplier values in ROM and EvoScan, plus your MAF scaling and MAF adder tables. I'm on an FP Green with FP intake + MAF and see max 2300 Hz at 32 psig corresponding to a Load1byte of 340
SO I forget how to do the 1 byte conversion, Ill look it up. Also, I log 4 different loads. Load 1 Byte, Load 2 byte, Spark Load, and Raw Load. This is all for fine tuning. I need to note, one of the GodFathers of this site, set my MAF Pulse values. Verified them with the disassembled code for 94170015 ROM. I also have the Tuner Definition file, which is different than most files you can find on here. Rom again is Tephra 94170715. Also worthy of notation, Main Map Boost is 24, ALT Map boost is 30.1. Both on Idaho pump 91. Also, weird thing is, as I was configuring the spark maps for both Main and Alt maps, the Sparkload 2byte/2Byte load values, is where I would make my changes and the car would change. So if I was actually hitting the values in 1 byte, then why would the 2byte values eliminate knock, with no changes to the higher load cells of 270-320 load?

Thanks again,

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You messed up the load figure due to MAF rescaling.
Load is Hz/RPM
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You messed up the load figure due to MAF rescaling.
Load is Hz/RPM
Please clarify or elaborate.

I know the formula your conveying, how ever, in the rescale of the MAF, the upper unit is 232 at 1600HZ, therefore when you rescale it, you follow the curve of stock, and use a little math to estimate the units say at 2800HZ. By following that curve, the 222~224 is what you end up with at 2700HZ.

Please explain or elaborate why it should be different, and possibly post up your MAF scaling to represent a rescale if you would please.

Thanks in advance,

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My fp red evo 8 with fp intake uses stock scaling. For maf
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My fp red evo 8 with fp intake uses stock scaling. For maf
So you only hit 1600HZ and below? Post up your MAF Pulse and MAF Compensation tables please?

Worthy of note, if you see who helped me tune the car, and recognize that he is one of the GodFathers of tuning the EVO... I would think that his rescaling and units are pretty correct. Can anyone give a explanation of why they would be off?

Thanks in advance.



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