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Old Sep 1, 2009, 07:39 PM
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Hey guys, I'm the owner of the car. Thanks for the comments.
To answer how much this cost, lets just put it this way, it wasn't cheap. There were a lot of setbacks and things I had to do in the background...

I have to bring it back to tune for 91 oct. So I don't have numbers yet.

The car was tuned at UMS Tuning in Mesa, Az. Yes, this was on q16 gas.
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Very nice!
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Impressive numbers!
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Originally Posted by antonio010
Hey guys, I'm the owner of the car. Thanks for the comments.
thanks for posting up antonio, take some vids!

Originally Posted by Philthy748
Awesome #'s - twinscroll is just awesome for roadracing and the street... Congrats to the owner of this beast! Geoff, soon you shall have another 40R twinscroll monster to back up what you've been telling the EVOm community for awhile now...
actually (2) 40R twinscrolls will be in your driveway . start making harassing phone calls lol

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Big Thumbs WAAAAY Up!!!
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That is some crazy power
Originally Posted by dave_evolvix
That's just crazy. I'm so jealous. I can't imagine must it must be like behind the wheel.
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Very nice!
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Impressive numbers!


Originally Posted by Joshs EVO
Where was this tuned at? also was this on race gas?
it was tuned on Q16 race gas at UMS -- they are an excellent shop in Mesa, AZ and their dynapack is well known and consistent. Modified Magazine uses their shop as the benchmark for their annual tuner shootout. more info on them here: http://www.full-race.com/tuner-shootout-09/

Originally Posted by IMADRIVER
With this setup, would it be possible to achieve that kind of torque at 3500-4000 rpm or is this a bit to early in the powerband for that amount of torque?
if you are asking if its possible to make 600ft lb at 3500-4000rpm, no this is not possible... its still a 2.4L 4 cyl engine. The only way to make more torque faster is to use a larger displacement engine, and/or a smaller turbo at higher boost which would fall off much more in the high rpms and not make as much HP... this is about the burliest evo powerband ive ever seen - or perhaps i misunderstood your question?

Originally Posted by sEvoIXnTurboS2k
Truly insane numbers! Is there any way to reduce the degree in which the torque is falling off? I would think that the additional displacement would help with this, and it certainly helped with the huge torque numbers to a given point.
yes the 2.4L engine is high displacement and has an aggressive rod length: stroke length ratio which means the pistons accelerate VERY fast and this will definitely will cause the torque to drop off. As far as the turbo, you could run it as a singlescroll to stop the torque dropping, but then you would lose the huge torque ramp up in the lower rpm - and thats where you spend 99% of the driving, so it would be a bad tradeoff

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Wow very impressive.
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Yes that answers it, thanks.
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Did the old setup with the 37R include the 2.4 engine? Or was that a new addition along with the 40R Twinscroll setup?
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Did I miss how much boost this was at?
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Nice work man, but that is what expected out of such a big turbo...
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Originally Posted by gsr0801
Nice work man, but that is what expected out of such a big turbo...
Maybe the peak #'s but no way will a big turbo's boost threshold be anywhere close to this on a single scroll setup...
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Agreed. Insane.
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I did have a 2.4L with my old setup as well.

39psi.

Thanks for the comments guys.
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You guys should post a boost plot when making this kind of comparison. The gains above 5k are really difficult to believe if both are at the same pressure ratio.
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wow...just wow.
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Originally Posted by PineappleMonkey
Did the old setup with the 37R include the 2.4 engine? Or was that a new addition along with the 40R Twinscroll setup?
yes the 37R was on the 2.4L as well

Originally Posted by eflove
Did I miss how much boost this was at?
39psi on Q16 race gas, he will do a pumpgas tune shortly

Originally Posted by gsr0801
Nice work man, but that is what expected out of such a big turbo...
i think youre miissing the point -- it has an earlier boost threshold, makes more power and has a correspondingly larger powerband with much more area under the curve. FWIW its not that big of a turbo... a 40R is only 63.5mm inducer/88mm exducer. For comparison sake a 37R is 66.7mm inducer/84.7mm exducer

Originally Posted by Philthy748
Maybe the peak #'s but no way will a big turbo's boost threshold be anywhere close to this on a single scroll setup...
^^^^yep

Originally Posted by tuan151
You guys should post a boost plot when making this kind of comparison. The gains above 5k are really difficult to believe if both are at the same pressure ratio.
difficult to believe? what is so difficult to believe about two totally different turbo systems with totally different mass flow rates / pressure ratios having different results? ill have tony at UMS post a boost log when the car is back for the pumpgas tune...

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