More CBRD BBK XL tweaking
May 3, 2010, 01:58 PM
#137
Looks like I'll be holding off on my BBK Full purchase for the time being.
Is that the same price difference between the two as a straight up purchase?
On the CBRD site it lists the Full as $1,250 w/ core, which leads me to believe that the B would run $1,850 w/ core.
Is that correct?
Is that the same price difference between the two as a straight up purchase?
On the CBRD site it lists the Full as $1,250 w/ core, which leads me to believe that the B would run $1,850 w/ core.
Is that correct?
May 3, 2010, 02:03 PM
#139
basically,
the cost to produce them new will be the same
the compressor is a LITTLE bit more expensive but we are absorbing that
So they both will be 1740 new (ported)
the upgrade from a BBK to a BBK-B (replace seals if needed, rebalance the assembly, machine the comp cover, re-assemble) will be apprx 600.00 or a little less
if that makes sense!
cb
the cost to produce them new will be the same
the compressor is a LITTLE bit more expensive but we are absorbing that So they both will be 1740 new (ported)
the upgrade from a BBK to a BBK-B (replace seals if needed, rebalance the assembly, machine the comp cover, re-assemble) will be apprx 600.00 or a little less
if that makes sense!
cb
May 3, 2010, 04:05 PM
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I JUST got my BBK-Full and Im still in shock over the amount of pull it delivers. Now this is a very exciting new option which im sure will bring alot of smiles to alot of people sitting in Recaro seats.
May 5, 2010, 02:15 AM
#147
I find posts like this somewhat deceiving. Makes it sound like the Black sacrifices negligible spool over the stock turbo or something like the BBK/HTA Green.
If that were the case, why did FP's very own Robert just make a thread raving about how much more fun the HTA Green is on his own personal car?
The Black is badass, no doubt about it, but come on people. If it really spooled so quickly, FP would have no reason to produce the Green.
If that were the case, why did FP's very own Robert just make a thread raving about how much more fun the HTA Green is on his own personal car?
The Black is badass, no doubt about it, but come on people. If it really spooled so quickly, FP would have no reason to produce the Green.
Just to let you know, "people" will "rave" on and on about certian things when they need the sales to go up. The Black speaks for itself and Robert doesn't need to expand or get more info out on it... However, the Green needed a bit of a push because it is not a huge hit due to Chad already having a lot of those customers. fyi Great turbo imo but a lot of the people that needed a turbo like that got Chad's BBK Full before Robert came out with the HTAGreen, not a bad turbo nor Roberts fault what-so-ever.
Mikey
May 5, 2010, 02:29 AM
#148
Maybe I am missing something, but do you have any data to back up your claims?
I did a quick browse through the dyno results section and the couple of black graphs I saw, peak torque was at like ~5k on a 2.0L, whereas peak torque on a BBK full was at like ~4k on a 2.0L.
Do you have links to these before 4k graphs on a 2.0L motor? or are your referring to a black making power that fast on a larger motor?
I did a quick browse through the dyno results section and the couple of black graphs I saw, peak torque was at like ~5k on a 2.0L, whereas peak torque on a BBK full was at like ~4k on a 2.0L.
Do you have links to these before 4k graphs on a 2.0L motor? or are your referring to a black making power that fast on a larger motor?
May 5, 2010, 02:58 AM
#149
Maybe I am missing something, but do you have any data to back up your claims?
I did a quick browse through the dyno results section and the couple of black graphs I saw, peak torque was at like ~5k on a 2.0L, whereas peak torque on a BBK full was at like ~4k on a 2.0L.
Do you have links to these before 4k graphs on a 2.0L motor? or are your referring to a black making power that fast on a larger motor?
I did a quick browse through the dyno results section and the couple of black graphs I saw, peak torque was at like ~5k on a 2.0L, whereas peak torque on a BBK full was at like ~4k on a 2.0L.
Do you have links to these before 4k graphs on a 2.0L motor? or are your referring to a black making power that fast on a larger motor?
A good reference point is looking where a motor crosses 200hp. The Black, depending on setup will be around 3900k. Red at 3600k, and the HTAGreen at 3400k. Of course this is all platform/mod dependent but it looks really close to that. Here are some of the graphs to compare, all on stock motor.
FP Black on a stock motor (would gain over 100rpms of spool if on E85 like the Red and Green below because of the timing at spoolup fyi, so not 100% comparison but couldn't find a stock motor FP Black on E85...)
https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/ev...lack-pump.html
FP Red stock motor
https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/ev...red-535hp.html
FP HTAGreen stock motor
https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/ev...torsports.html
Sorry for of topic Chad, I'm done posting in this thread. Please don't ask me anymore questions about the FP turbos or spooll. If anyone has a question post a thread or shoot a pm. Sorry and back on topic.
Great turbo Chad!
If I wasn't shooting for 700+hp I would have went BBK-B, but I don't think the BBK-B will get me close...Mikey
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