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Old Jan 8, 2010, 05:30 AM
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Spool looks similar to Buschurs 2.4 / Red setup... is this turbo supposed to spool sooner than a red?
Buschur is using a 2.4 and this car is using a 2.3. The BBK-B is supposed to spool faster then an FP Red IIRC.

Once GST has the final version of this turbo with the billet wheel, then we'll really be able to compare it since that will be the version the consumer will see.

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Old Jan 8, 2010, 05:42 AM
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GST what gear is that dyno sheet in?
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Old Jan 8, 2010, 05:52 AM
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Originally Posted by crcain
GST what gear is that dyno sheet in?
Originally Posted by GST Motorsports
Had the "test" Evo 9 with the "beta" CBRD BBK XL in again to do some more tweaking.

The car ran out of fuel last time so the owner added a BlaqOps progressive double pumper and went from FIC 1250cc injectors to FIC 1550cc injectors.

I also upgraded the OEM ECU to Tephra V7, from Tephra V5.

The added resolution in the V7 ROM coupled with 1 psi more overall netted some great gains from last time. Over 30whp gains in the midrange!

2006 Evo GSR

Modifications:

GST 2.3L stroker
Oversized valves in head (no head porting)
3" Downpipe
3" Agency Power catback
RRE rally cat (resonated test pipe)
Titek V2 tubular 02 housing
Ported stock exhaust manifold
CBRD BBK Full XL Beta (ported)
GST open cone air filter
Perrin FMIC
AMS LICP
Synapse BOV
Cosworth M2 mivec cams
FIC "BlueMax" 1550cc injectors
AEM fuel Rail
AMS fuel return line
Denso IKH24 spark plugs (1 heat range colder)
BlaqOps Progressive double pumper system
GM 3 port boost solenoid using ECU-controlled boost
Stock ECU (Tephra V7 ROM)
Stock MAF
Stock Intake Manifold
Stock Upper IC pipes
E85

32psi peak, 28psi up top

502 whp / 481 wtq

Both 3rd gear pulls:

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Old Jan 8, 2010, 05:54 AM
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Originally Posted by crcain
GST what gear is that dyno sheet in?
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Here is BBK Full vs BBK XL boost plot from last testing session, both 3rd gear:



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Old Jan 8, 2010, 08:59 AM
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Bryan, Could you overlay the BBKXL with at FP Red with a simular build 2.3. I would like to see spool and power diferences for 30-32lbs...

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Old Jan 8, 2010, 09:43 AM
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WOW! awesome numbers and great spool time! Would you guys be doing any road racing with this turbo?
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Old Jan 8, 2010, 11:31 AM
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Originally Posted by BLKCarbonEVO
Bryan, Could you overlay the BBKXL with at FP Red with a simular build 2.3. I would like to see spool and power diferences for 30-32lbs...

Mikey
Wish I could, but we haven't had a build at this level with a FPred through the shop yet.

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Old Jan 8, 2010, 01:36 PM
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The spool looks great but this is with a 2.3L so you would expect it to look better than on a 2.0L. I just really can't wait to see what a production unit will do on a 2.0 w/ 93 as that is what most guys run on the street. If all is well I WILL be putting one of these on this spring. Times like this I'm glad CBRD is only an hour away!
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Old Jan 8, 2010, 07:08 PM
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I agree with Mikey,
throw some beef cake bumpsticks in that think and wake it up.
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Originally Posted by GST Motorsports
The V7 resolution difference has helped a ton with tuning timing. I find I can run more timing in different RPM areas then I could with the lower resolution because of the ability to fine tune the sensitive areas. This is even more apparent on pump gas 91.

I've noticed the evos love running the biggie maps if tuned correctly.

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What do you think of using the bigger resolution maps for evos in general? What I mean by that is wouldn't people with even stock turbos benefit from the higher resolutions and being able to fine tune more than the stock map?
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Originally Posted by mitsuevo803
What do you think of using the bigger resolution maps for evos in general? What I mean by that is wouldn't people with even stock turbos benefit from the higher resolutions and being able to fine tune more than the stock map?
Yes I have used them on stock turbo Evos as well. I noticed overall it's a good improvement. Tephra is the man.

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Old Jan 11, 2010, 12:38 PM
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bryan, if this car was a 2.0L on E85 at this level, would it still have run out of fuel with the single walbro and 1250's?
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Originally Posted by McLaren F1 2003
bryan, if this car was a 2.0L on E85 at this level, would it still have run out of fuel with the single walbro and 1250's?
On our dyno yes indeed.

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well shoot, looks like im sticking with the regular sized BBK full

not like its a slouch or anything
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