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Old Jan 10, 2010, 08:08 PM
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How Accurate VDR is? (Results inside)

Today i ran the car on a dynojet for the TSA Winter Dyno Wars. The car ran like crap, my fuel trim i guess was why off because of the crazy temps. I was running so rich that i think i was pegging my AEM wideband since it was reading 10.0 for most of the pull!

At 28psi max and 10:1 afrs i made 547awhp...



i took the logs from the two 547awhp pulls and put them on the VDR...



535awhp and 533awhp.....

Here's the afrs/boost of the 547awhp pull



not bad for 28psi and 10 afrs if not richer!

I would say pretty close, dont you think?

Congratulations to everyone who worked on the creation of VDR! An excellent, very realistic dyno simulator!
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nice power for pump gas while car runnin not 100% kouzman! any videos? also, you fix your 3rd gear issue yet?!
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It was a pleasure meeting today Kouzman!!!

The car ran nice and smooth, started quick (aem), and had no hesitations or bucking!

Tell you tuner he did an awesome job!!!


As for the afr's, they really wouldn't be so bad in real road situations if you review the logs correctly.


I'll review my archives of today's footage and see if a can slap a vid together.


I hope you had as much of a blast as I did!!!
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You should do a pull on the street right after to show how accurate it is, not a datalog from the dyno.

DLL is pretty close to our dyno with a log from the dyno and not so much with a log from the street right after.

Just FYI.

Nice power btw.

- Bryan
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There is a drop down for ESP mustang dyno. I have seen a variance of literally 2hp. pretty dead on to me.
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Originally Posted by 4g63evoeight
nice power for pump gas while car runnin not 100% kouzman! any videos? also, you fix your 3rd gear issue yet?!

Thanks man! the car was runnin incrdbly rich but I should mention the
25 degrees that we had yesterday... I was seeing IATs in the 30s! Lol

the gearbox is not fixed yet. Will do it probably end of February beginning of march. At that time I will decide if I will run the car on e85 too!
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Originally Posted by E-SPEC@TopLevelPerformance
It was a pleasure meeting today Kouzman!!!

The car ran nice and smooth, started quick (aem), and had no hesitations or bucking!

Tell you tuner he did an awesome job!!!


As for the afr's, they really wouldn't be so bad in real road situations if you review the logs correctly.


I'll review my archives of today's footage and see if a can slap a vid together.


I hope you had as much of a blast as I did!!!

Thanks for everything man! It was a pleasure meetng you too! It nice to put a face to the nickname!

I already talked to my tuner and the afrs are an easy fix... The car runs good in 90 degrees, in 70 degrees, even in 50 degrees! We will adjust it real time to run good in the 30s too!

From your experince, how much more power you think the car would have made if the afrs were in the low-mid 11s instead of the flat 10s or less?
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600 for sure ws that on staright pump gas.
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Originally Posted by GST Motorsports
You should do a pull on the street right after to show how accurate it is, not a datalog from the dyno.

DLL is pretty close to our dyno with a log from the dyno and not so much with a log from the street right after.

Just FYI.

Nice power btw.

- Bryan
I thought of doing that too but my laptops battery died!

Same weight, same gastank I have two 3rd gear roadpulls in 3rd (remember that I have the longer 3rd and 4th from the evo 8)
- the first one at 28ish psi and afrs in the high 10s was around 570awhp vdr
- the second one at 30psi and afrs in the mid 11s was around 620awhp

my 132 trap with the bad gearbox had a similar log with the second 30psi log above...
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Originally Posted by Sharkbite2000
600 for sure ws that on staright pump gas.
Straight pumpgas from a Gulf gas station!
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Thats impressive pump gas power! Nice
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good setup!!!!!
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nice stuff.
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Originally Posted by kouzman
Straight pumpgas from a Gulf gas station!
Only one way to really tell fix the afr's and do a dyno pull again!!!!!!!^00 whp on 27 psi will be hard maybe on 30 psi..Also was the car smoking(blue)?
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Originally Posted by IDRINKV8'S
Only one way to really tell fix the afr's and do a dyno pull again!!!!!!!^00 whp on 27 psi will be hard maybe on 30 psi..Also was the car smoking(blue)?
The tune will be adjusted soon to be optical in such cold weather, although I don't really drive the car when it's so cold out. I prefer my FX35s heated seats! Lol

also I don't really see a point of taking th car back on a dyno. I know how it performs every time I go to the track. The only meaningful numbers are the ones on the timeslip.

Blue smoke? I can't tell. I know that the car burns some oil, which is absolutely normal for a built block, but nothing excessive. We are talking maybe 0.3 qrts per 1000 miles and that's with a small leak on my mivec solenoid valve I think. Need to change the little gasket there.

Taking the car fom the street completely cold at 25 dgrees to the dyno room and pulling 3 times to almost 9000 rpm with just idle warm up and not driving definitely affected it... Oh well... It is what it is. We had fun!


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