2.3+6262 at a Mile high!!!
Aug 10, 2010, 08:20 PM
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the car is definitely fast, especially being on crappy 91 and alcohol. as a tuning tool, the mustang is faaarrrr better than a dynojet, especially since you can load the car properly. once tuned, you dont need to make any changes on the road, where cars ive seen on dynojets usually need a touch up on the road. there are dynojets that have correction factors as well, a local one runs 20-22%. in the end, everyone knows that dynos are just tuning tools and give you an idea what kind of gains you car has seen from stock to modified. im just happy the car feels strong on the road, runs smoothe, and starts up like oem lol
Aug 11, 2010, 02:00 AM
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just want to make it clear that the dyno is set up by Mustang and nothing was touched after. Mustang actually says to run the correction factor. i know alot of people are against this but its what mustang says to do. there are no sensors or anything that were left out, its exactly how mustang would want it to be set up. before people start to jump to conclusions, call mustang and they will explain all of this to you. also, you can always figure out uncorrected numbers.
A lot of the local guys go to texas for the big event that is there and the turbo guys all notice this. One guy, TRMIN8R, dynoed 10% higher at a dj in texas and ran a 9.34 when he was running 9.6-9.7 in abq, 01 88mm turbo camaro SS.
I will say it again, since everyone uses cf in denver, and altitude in general, it makes sense why tobz uses it.
Also, your car doesn't ever use corrected numbers, so you are saying that you MIGHT have a number that is 20% greater than what you are ACTUALLY producing. But to basically say, "Yeah my car has xx power, well if I was at sea level and it was 77 degrees and 29.235 in/Hg, but it totally has it." To think or say that, which you are, is ignorant and naive.
Plus I really hope this car runs for awhile. No one in town can keep a high hp car running and I am glad you actually got it built by someone that knows what they are doing. Congrats man.
the car is definitely fast, especially being on crappy 91 and alcohol. as a tuning tool, the mustang is faaarrrr better than a dynojet, especially since you can load the car properly. once tuned, you dont need to make any changes on the road, where cars ive seen on dynojets usually need a touch up on the road. there are dynojets that have correction factors as well, a local one runs 20-22%. in the end, everyone knows that dynos are just tuning tools and give you an idea what kind of gains you car has seen from stock to modified. im just happy the car feels strong on the road, runs smoothe, and starts up like oem lol
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Aug 11, 2010, 02:03 AM
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Tobz dyno reads like a dynojet.......... sometimes higher! bs dyno. from the dyno sheets i seen from him tho, he certainly knows what hes doing, so i dont understand the bs inflation? I dont care if the dynos on the north poll with Santa Claus controlling it, theres no need for this 1.8 or whatever the cf is raised to. For the forums sake at least post uncorrected with corrected so we can see.
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Aug 11, 2010, 02:21 AM
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Im curious though, since you have to punch the weight in does this mean if the car weights more then a standard evo or has like 400lbs of extra crap in the car will it effect the power it outputs or no? i had like 500lbs of crap in my car when i dyno'ed. 4 tires, fuel, battery chargers, 2 people, etc.
Aug 11, 2010, 09:56 AM
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Tobz dyno reads like a dynojet.......... sometimes higher! bs dyno. from the dyno sheets i seen from him tho, he certainly knows what hes doing, so i dont understand the bs inflation? I dont care if the dynos on the north poll with Santa Claus controlling it, theres no need for this 1.8 or whatever the cf is raised to. For the forums sake at least post uncorrected with corrected so we can see.
PS I just got an email back from Mustang
And another from DJ
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Aug 13, 2010, 08:07 AM
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I love how we get a few guys that put out that Tobz is the only good tuner in the area. We are lucky enough to have several good tuners in the area. Carz Performance and Mac Autosport to name a couple.
Tobz has had cars and turbos blow up just like anyone else. People just don't post up about it.
There is a big difference between a post about how you got tuned by Tobz and are happy with it, or saying that Tobz is the only good tuner in the area, or that he is better than anyone else in the area, which has been mentioned before on our colorado evo forum.
Tobz has had cars and turbos blow up just like anyone else. People just don't post up about it.
There is a big difference between a post about how you got tuned by Tobz and are happy with it, or saying that Tobz is the only good tuner in the area, or that he is better than anyone else in the area, which has been mentioned before on our colorado evo forum.
Aug 13, 2010, 08:08 AM
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WTF are you smoking? We have quite a few DSM/8/9 tuners that know their **** locally!
Aug 13, 2010, 09:54 AM
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we've had this argument on the colorado forum - unless you've personally been involved business-wise with other tuners, don't state that "all are bad", "tobz is the only good one", etc.
i've been tuned by tobz, and am very happy with the results. (30k miles on the e85 tune now)
there are plenty of other evo owners who have used other local tuners, there have been a few bad apples - but generally, it appears that we are lucky to have a choice of tuners in the area that know their stuff.
i've been tuned by tobz, and am very happy with the results. (30k miles on the e85 tune now)
there are plenty of other evo owners who have used other local tuners, there have been a few bad apples - but generally, it appears that we are lucky to have a choice of tuners in the area that know their stuff.
Aug 13, 2010, 06:11 PM
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we've had this argument on the colorado forum - unless you've personally been involved business-wise with other tuners, don't state that "all are bad", "tobz is the only good one", etc.
i've been tuned by tobz, and am very happy with the results. (30k miles on the e85 tune now)
there are plenty of other evo owners who have used other local tuners, there have been a few bad apples - but generally, it appears that we are lucky to have a choice of tuners in the area that know their stuff.
i've been tuned by tobz, and am very happy with the results. (30k miles on the e85 tune now)
there are plenty of other evo owners who have used other local tuners, there have been a few bad apples - but generally, it appears that we are lucky to have a choice of tuners in the area that know their stuff.
Sorry for pissing you guys off.
Aug 13, 2010, 06:29 PM
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I love how we get a few guys that put out that Tobz is the only good tuner in the area. We are lucky enough to have several good tuners in the area. Carz Performance and Mac Autosport to name a couple.
Tobz has had cars and turbos blow up just like anyone else. People just don't post up about it.
There is a big difference between a post about how you got tuned by Tobz and are happy with it, or saying that Tobz is the only good tuner in the area, or that he is better than anyone else in the area, which has been mentioned before on our colorado evo forum.
Tobz has had cars and turbos blow up just like anyone else. People just don't post up about it.
There is a big difference between a post about how you got tuned by Tobz and are happy with it, or saying that Tobz is the only good tuner in the area, or that he is better than anyone else in the area, which has been mentioned before on our colorado evo forum.
we've had this argument on the colorado forum - unless you've personally been involved business-wise with other tuners, don't state that "all are bad", "tobz is the only good one", etc.
i've been tuned by tobz, and am very happy with the results. (30k miles on the e85 tune now)
there are plenty of other evo owners who have used other local tuners, there have been a few bad apples - but generally, it appears that we are lucky to have a choice of tuners in the area that know their stuff.
i've been tuned by tobz, and am very happy with the results. (30k miles on the e85 tune now)
there are plenty of other evo owners who have used other local tuners, there have been a few bad apples - but generally, it appears that we are lucky to have a choice of tuners in the area that know their stuff.
Aug 13, 2010, 06:51 PM
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If you look at the title of my thread...no where does it show that im glorifying my numbers. have you ever thought about the fact the there are people that look at more than just the numbers on a dyno graph??? since your not looking at that, let me point out a couple of things. by looking at the graph you can see things such as powerband, spool up, boost etc and compare them to an evo at sea level with the same mods. obviously these things are not the same at this elevation. im sure that there are quite a few people that live in high elevation areas that can take this info and apply it to their path in modifications, especially when it comes to choosing a turbo or a full set up that will provide a person with the spool up, power, and performance that they are looking for. its unfortunate that through the years of modifications on my car, i was not able to research and find information from evo's in high elevation areas. due to this, i went through a couple of different set ups until now, which im finally satisfied.
Aug 13, 2010, 07:11 PM
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If you look at the title of my thread...no where does it show that im glorifying my numbers. have you ever thought about the fact the there are people that look at more than just the numbers on a dyno graph??? since your not looking at that, let me point out a couple of things. by looking at the graph you can see things such as powerband, spool up, boost etc and compare them to an evo at sea level with the same mods. obviously these things are not the same at this elevation. im sure that there are quite a few people that live in high elevation areas that can take this info and apply it to their path in modifications, especially when it comes to choosing a turbo or a full set up that will provide a person with the spool up, power, and performance that they are looking for. its unfortunate that through the years of modifications on my car, i was not able to research and find information from evo's in high elevation areas. due to this, i went through a couple of different set ups until now, which im finally satisfied.
No matter how you argue it, uncorrected shows TRUE data that may not be a direct comparison to people at sea level but you aren't adding an unreal number to it.
I am really glad you are happy with your car. It makes good power.
