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Aug 24, 2010, 08:43 AM
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For all of you 6262 pros, would the car feel different hit different if it was journal bearing? I ask this because journal bearing is cheaper and if I recall correctly it can be rebuilt whereas dbb needs a new cartrdige which is pricy. If the journal bearing version spools slower but still hits just as hard, isn't it worth it? But nice #'s man!
Aug 24, 2010, 12:05 PM
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Thanks man this just a conservative tune for the summer.
The B.b will make power,spool faster,and last longer.My Turbo spool full at 5,200rpms vs a journal bearing would be around 5,500 or more its worth the money for it.
For all of you 6262 pros, would the car feel different hit different if it was journal bearing? I ask this because journal bearing is cheaper and if I recall correctly it can be rebuilt whereas dbb needs a new cartrdige which is pricy. If the journal bearing version spools slower but still hits just as hard, isn't it worth it? But nice #'s man!
Aug 24, 2010, 03:38 PM
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I also just got off the phone with, I believe his name was Michael at PTE, and he said that the 6262 is only rated at 67lbs/min, that's right 67lbs/min. That sounds really low so I don't know why he said that. I would guess 72lbs/min based on the numbers it has produced. The HTA86 flows more and makes more power, it isn't like 100 more but closer to 30-50 more.
They are both great turbos but the hta86 spools faster and makes more power but costs more. There are VERY similar.
Great numbers.
Aug 24, 2010, 03:48 PM
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First off, didn't you mean 8's? Second, PTE came out with a new turbo and he got his hands on one and had great results, why try anything differemt? Third, there is more to drag racing and times than power. The new HTA3794 is A LOT larger than the 6262 and 6765 but it only ran a 8.99 and the 6262 went quicker, 8.98. Paul Nelson only ran an 8.99 with over 1000hp with a gt42... The HTA86 MAKES more than the 6262. On MOSTWANTED's IX it made over 800hp and the 6262 only made mid 700's on the bastard evo on the same dyno.
I also just got off the phone with, I believe his name was Michael at PTE, and he said that the 6262 is only rated at 67lbs/min, that's right 67lbs/min. That sounds really low so I don't know why he said that. I would guess 72lbs/min based on the numbers it has produced. The HTA86 flows more and makes more power, it isn't like 100 more but closer to 30-50 more.
They are both great turbos but the hta86 spools faster and makes more power but costs more. There are VERY similar.
Great numbers.
I also just got off the phone with, I believe his name was Michael at PTE, and he said that the 6262 is only rated at 67lbs/min, that's right 67lbs/min. That sounds really low so I don't know why he said that. I would guess 72lbs/min based on the numbers it has produced. The HTA86 flows more and makes more power, it isn't like 100 more but closer to 30-50 more.
They are both great turbos but the hta86 spools faster and makes more power but costs more. There are VERY similar.
Great numbers.
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First off, didn't you mean 8's? Second, PTE came out with a new turbo and he got his hands on one and had great results, why try anything differemt? Third, there is more to drag racing and times than power. The new HTA3794 is A LOT larger than the 6262 and 6765 but it only ran a 8.99 and the 6262 went quicker, 8.98. Paul Nelson only ran an 8.99 with over 1000hp with a gt42... The HTA8oy6 MAKES more than the 6262. On MOSTWANTED's IX it made over 800hp and the 6262 only made mid 700's on the bastard evo on the same dyno.
I also just got off the phone with, I believe his name was Michael at PTE, and he said that the 6262 is only rated at 67lbs/min, that's right 67lbs/min. That sounds really low so I don't know why he said that. I would guess 72lbs/min based on the numbers it has produced. The HTA86 flows more and makes more power, it isn't like 100 more but closer to 30-50 more.
They are both great turbos but the hta86 spools faster and makes more power but costs more. There are VERY similar.
Great numbers.
I also just got off the phone with, I believe his name was Michael at PTE, and he said that the 6262 is only rated at 67lbs/min, that's right 67lbs/min. That sounds really low so I don't know why he said that. I would guess 72lbs/min based on the numbers it has produced. The HTA86 flows more and makes more power, it isn't like 100 more but closer to 30-50 more.
They are both great turbos but the hta86 spools faster and makes more power but costs more. There are VERY similar.
Great numbers.
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As to what turbo I have, I have a Red currently but I am going to go to the hta86 hopefully early next year, this year has been really rough.
Who told me that it spools faster, quite a few posts made by Mike@AWD. The 6262 never broke 800 on his dyno but MOSTWANTED's hta86 did. He has said many times that the hta86 makes more power, and I am pretty sure he said spools a little faster. FP always under rates their turbos like crazy. They only mention 75lbs/min stating it flows more than that. It is probably closer to 80lbs/min.
Aug 24, 2010, 07:07 PM
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I talked to them directly this afternoon. I will have solid proof and if I am wrong them I will admit it. I was really shocked when he said 67lbs/min. I wouldn't be surprised if it was in the 72-75lbs/min range. I tried looking it up and the only specs I got were 72lbs/min. Where are you getting your specs from?
As to what turbo I have, I have a Red currently but I am going to go to the hta86 hopefully early next year, this year has been really rough.
Who told me that it spools faster, quite a few posts made by Mike@AWD. The 6262 never broke 800 on his dyno but MOSTWANTED's hta86 did. He has said many times that the hta86 makes more power, and I am pretty sure he said spools a little faster. FP always under rates their turbos like crazy. They only mention 75lbs/min stating it flows more than that. It is probably closer to 80lbs/min.
As to what turbo I have, I have a Red currently but I am going to go to the hta86 hopefully early next year, this year has been really rough.
Who told me that it spools faster, quite a few posts made by Mike@AWD. The 6262 never broke 800 on his dyno but MOSTWANTED's hta86 did. He has said many times that the hta86 makes more power, and I am pretty sure he said spools a little faster. FP always under rates their turbos like crazy. They only mention 75lbs/min stating it flows more than that. It is probably closer to 80lbs/min.
watch the vid he clearly states it flows 75 lbs per min but it was tested im loooking for it it is 76 lbs per min a tad bigger then the 3586 fp turbo.
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http://www.youtube.com/user/r3compile#p/u/5/8cJ-jJhNrZ0
watch the vid he clearly states it flows 75 lbs per min but it was tested im loooking for it it is 76 lbs per min a tad bigger then the 3586 fp turbo.
watch the vid he clearly states it flows 75 lbs per min but it was tested im loooking for it it is 76 lbs per min a tad bigger then the 3586 fp turbo.
Aug 24, 2010, 07:34 PM
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No it doesn't flow less then 75 lb per min it's almost the same turbo from two different companies!!
Aug 24, 2010, 07:42 PM
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Here is a couple quotes, actually a quote and an answer from mike@awd about these turbos...
https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/8131923-post47.html
And here
https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/8143969-post69.html
And here
https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/8145212-post70.html <--825awhp on the hta86.... No 6262 has made that much... That is also on the stock ecu. Thanks again
and last but not least, 850awhp with the HTA86. It fits right between the 6262 and the 6765
https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/8145459-post78.html
They are similar turbos but the hta86 makes more power
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If it is a back to back, only turbo swap please post, if it isn't don't bother. Remember the spool up is based on more than just the turbo; cams, compression, fuel, displacement, altitude, AFR and timing all come into play when it comes to spool up. If and when I do a hta86 it will spool slower than 90% of everyone elses'. Why because I live at a mile high. I am looking at doing a LR 2.4 with a 10:1 CR, possibly .63a/r or a t4 ts 1.06a/r and 4.11 final drive so I have a quicker spooling turbo and enough gear to trap 150ish. Altitude sucks.
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Sorry, I didn't mean to go so far OT.
You have a killer combination and a great turbo. 500whp on a proper reading dyno is going to be QUICK and to do it with just 93oct is even better. Congrats, that car is probably fun as hell.
You have a killer combination and a great turbo. 500whp on a proper reading dyno is going to be QUICK and to do it with just 93oct is even better. Congrats, that car is probably fun as hell.
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If it is a back to back, only turbo swap please post, if it isn't don't bother. Remember the spool up is based on more than just the turbo; cams, compression, fuel, displacement, altitude, AFR and timing all come into play when it comes to spool up. If and when I do a hta86 it will spool slower than 90% of everyone elses'. Why because I live at a mile high. I am looking at doing a LR 2.4 with a 10:1 CR, possibly .63a/r or a t4 ts 1.06a/r and 4.11 final drive so I have a quicker spooling turbo and enough gear to trap 150ish. Altitude sucks.
This setup up is similar to mine except he has smaller cams and s.d...lokk how laggy it is next to me graph.
https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/ev...r-powered.html