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Old Jan 13, 2011, 01:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Carloverx
Ohh, i see what you're saying. I need to drop my AFR's earlier?

And the only problem with tuning before and after meth, are those little baby injectors I'm running lol I suspect I'd run out of fuel with them before I had a antiquate map to base the meth map off of ?

I'll keep you posted. I'm tied up at work now but I'll certainly shoot you a pm when I get a chance to play with the knock sensor. Then again, I didn't touch it yet b/c i'm not interested in really making more power on the stock block daily driver I'll give it some thought this weekend lol
ya 500 is getting there lol. maybe best to leave it alone. im sure it would be ok at 550 tho. just keep the torque down. ill explain in pm how to further control the fuel.
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Originally Posted by bigturboevo80
For the correction factor being used, it's not bad. On a uncorrected dynojet, his peak torque would be high 300's. Which should be reliable on the stock motor. From what ive read on this forum, and from experience.
The CF used is a DYNO CF, not a weather correction CF.

VD "dynojet" setting @ 1.09CF = REAL dynojet @ 1.00CF aka UNCORRECTED.
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Did you log boost? Also like stated the tq is a bit high if you want your motor to last. I did 540hp/440tq on my E85 Red at 31.5psi for 1.5 years and never had a problem but most guys will keep tq at 400. With that being said, the later your car spools the safer high tq numbers are on the rods.

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Old Jan 13, 2011, 02:36 PM
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Originally Posted by BLKCarbonEVO
Did you log boost? Also like stated the tq is a bit high if you want your motor to last. I did 540hp/440tq on my E85 Red at 31.5psi for 1.5 years and never had a problem but most guys will keep tq at 400. With that being said, the later your car spools the safer high tq numbers are on the rods.

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you can still control tq even with a quick spooling turbo. but i know what you meant to say.. the earlier the torque hits the more likely rod failure vs later in the rpm.. i agree 100%.
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Originally Posted by BLKCarbonEVO
Did you log boost? Also like stated the tq is a bit high if you want your motor to last. I did 540hp/440tq on my E85 Red at 31.5psi for 1.5 years and never had a problem but most guys will keep tq at 400. With that being said, the later your car spools the safer high tq numbers are on the rods.

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I didn't/don't log boost. I know i should be

A few other worrisome things: on very cold nights (such as tonight), i can almost crack 450tq. I have seen 34psi for a split second when temps drop this low (<~35*)

If i do a 4th gear pull, it easily breaks 450. With the six speed, I'm not sure how a 3rd gear pulls compares to a 3rd gear pull in a 5 speed. But i'm guessing I'm losing some tq as far as the graph goes.



The car just rips from a roll. I can put a car length on my friend's bolt-on IX almost instantly and then just keep going. I'm going to turn the boost down tomorrow though. I need the car to last ha..ha..
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Originally Posted by tscompusa
you're tuning for spool way to long.. its an hta82 not 86. you should have full boost by around 4200.
I don't think he has posted a graph or indicated when hit he full boost did he?
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Originally Posted by Boltz.
I don't think he has posted a graph or indicated when hit he full boost did he?
I didn't. But i think he was referring to the RPM at which my AFR's drop (implying I'm holding them above 12 for spool-up longer than he assumes a typical FP Black needs them to be).
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Originally Posted by tscompusa
ya thats not true at all. id put $500 if he goes to the old dyno, his numbers would be within 1-2%.


Good job though carloverx.. just understand if it was knocking in neutral reving then theres more power in the car.
its hard to tune a car with phantom knock.. if you want help removing the false knock pm me. free of course.

I looked at the correction factor wrong.
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So i was reading through this: https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/ec...-found-23.html

Anyone have any recommendations for a safe knock settings with my listed setup? As I mentioned, the car will register 6 counts of knock just free revving while sitting still. The only variables I'd like to change are the three low, mid, high multipliers and the load threshold if needed.

I'm using 88590015 for whatever it's worth. Thanks.
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