a fully prepped RWD race car vs AWD = RWD wins if both setups are maxed out. AWD becomes a huge restriction as everyone on this thread knows.

but there are SO many times you will see AWD take a HUGE **** on RWD and FWD on both the street and track due to traction issues on your regular everyday setups, yet at the track fwd and rwd can walk on awd all day long when they are built for it.

thats all i have to add to this thread. AWD > RWD for an everyday vehicle as far as traction goes..

Taking a fully prepped mustang with slicks and chute off a flatbed to race a regular street evo on street tires is a load of **** no matter how you look at it.. but if i was the mustang owner and had some guy in a evo willing to give me his $ id take it also.. the mustang guy got $ easy and went on his way.. he barely even cracked open the throttle.

 

Huh, good to know. I'll bring my Jet car next time....I mean really were does this stop. I agree run what you brung, but christ a flat bed?? gimmie a break.

 

Ohhh maiiiii gaawwwdddd a flat bed xD

 

i agree with what you said, as long as you live to drag race. for guys like me that want a car that does everything well, awd is hard to beat. i dont need to run home and swap tires between going corner burning, daily driving and drag racing. rwd has too many compromises for a street car.

 

that mustang was a beast no doubt, and the evo owner was foolish. As stated before, some ridicolous evo is needed to handle that mustang. i'd say 1200 whp revving to 10k rpm at the minimum, with beast tires and weight reduction + nitrous

 

Exactly!!! I drive AWDs as dailys and even have one to drag race for fun. My point is simply to many kiddies think that because they have AWD EVO and can hook on the street they will beat every rwd mustang/vette/viper they see. For a every day beater/street car an evo/sti is more then enough to get in trouble... but more then likely the kid in the video with the evo, like many awd owners thought his AWD will own anything on the road... Probably with the " that pos wont hook on the street "attitude.

 

If it was on street tires he may've been right. Everyone knows that high HP RWD (Like Supra's) past a certain HP on street tires are useless from a dig.

 

I remember that build; was insane:

http://forums.bimmerforums.com/forum....php?t=1575817

 

{omg}

 

The billet blocks are http://www.bulletcylinderheads.com.au/billetblocks.php. Very impressive stuff no question, but to build street Evos we want to retain factory cores to keep costs within the realm of realism for most people. There simply aren't a lot of people out there willing to spend $30,000 on an Evo long block, nor do they need to for the most part. It just isn't going to happen. We try to build top quality component, relatively affordable pricing, and solid power band street vehicles. It's very impressive to make as much power as possible with, spare no cost, engine components, but it's not really viable in terms of developing an engine program that people can and will regularly buy.

I do agree if you want to make 2000whp you will need a billet block, additionally studded billet head, etc, as the physical block would become the weak point along with trying to keep the head attached to the engine. Now that said, Winberg/Sonny Bryant billet cranks, GRP Pro Material NHRA spec rods, and Xceldyne valve train components are capable of 12,000rpm easily and don't really have any component concerns in terms of breakage. The machine shop we work with to develop our engine program is the same one that built all the top fuel engines for Hot Rod Fuller's top fuel car, and the head of operations is the same man who headed GM's R&D of the ecotech 1500+whp drag program. We are in good hands.

 

you guys are serious, we should see some records fall then.

 

Time will tell on that one. I'd never sit here and say something like that about ourselves. We just simply want to continue building great cars and if more accolades come along the way then that is just a bonus and part of doing a quality job for our many great customers.

 

I would lay a nice chunk of bank down on Mike@AWD giving him a run for his $$$...

 

Damn that is an insane amour of power!!

 

hahaha...pics/video or it didn't happen!