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Old May 10, 2011, 03:07 PM
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Originally Posted by russianvr4
so let me get this straight, your 6262 car makes 680awhp at 22psi and your 6265 car makes only 14xawhp more with 20 more lbs?
this makes a lot of sense...
Look at the torque difference. 791 awtq is insane...no pun intended.
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Congrats very nice powerful car !!!!
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Originally Posted by blackenedwings
Look at the torque difference. 791 awtq is insane...no pun intended.
im not blind, i see that very well but that is absolutely not what im talking about.
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Nice Power/Tq but it seems to fall off pretty badly and loses 100 hp from 7000 to 8000 rpm
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So was this run with or without the nitrous? Thanks for posting up another pic.
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^ No Nitrous as stated in First Post in this Thread, I'm sure spraying this car might blow the turbo? Isn't it maxed out for the most part?
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Originally Posted by russianvr4
so let me get this straight, your 6262 car makes 680awhp at 22psi and your 6265 car makes only 14xawhp more with 20 more lbs?
this makes a lot of sense...
It absolutely does when you realize the 6262 car spooled waaaaay later in the powerband. Torque, horsepower,and RPM are all related.
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Old May 10, 2011, 05:11 PM
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Originally Posted by 1NastyMR
^ No Nitrous as stated in First Post in this Thread, I'm sure spraying this car might blow the turbo? Isn't it maxed out for the most part?
Opps my bad. I must have missed it. I was mesmerized by the extensive mod list.
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Originally Posted by 1NastyMR
^ No Nitrous as stated in First Post in this Thread, I'm sure spraying this car might blow the turbo? Isn't it maxed out for the most part?
Overspinning the turbo is always a concern.
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Hey guys 1st congrats on the clean build. Please don’t take offence to all including myself that are skeptical about the numbers.

I ran the post and graph by my builder(Dogboxracing) to ask them there take. Considering they are one of if not the highest HP Evo’s built 170+traps on low boost( 40psi). I listen when they talk.

They believe the graph and numbers and said it is impressive. It can be done with moving cam timing/ overlap into left field. This can make early peak numbers but they drop like a rock. Overall they are guessing the car will have a hard time breaking 160+ traps. Due to the power drop and small power band. It looks great on paper but not the best on the blacktop.

I am not trying to start a war but my interests are in cam design and valve timing as I am trying to get the most out of a street setup. Does this make any sense to you guys?

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Btw- Is there a vid of the dyno pulls?

I would love to hear it. Should sound like monster. Hearing a 4g63 making 900+ on a mustang dyno sounds insane. From what I was told it takes just over 1sec to pull from 6.5-10k in that power range.
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That rear bumper is kinda **** Honda, but the torque is undeniably formidable.
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Originally Posted by russianvr4
so let me get this straight, your 6262 car makes 680awhp at 22psi and your 6265 car makes only 14xawhp more with 20 more lbs?
this makes a lot of sense...
Totally different set up, one Evo 8, one Evo 9, etc....Not much on those two cars is the same.


Originally Posted by 1NastyMR
Nice Power/Tq but it seems to fall off pretty badly and loses 100 hp from 7000 to 8000 rpm
It's absolutely sucking the turbo dry. We are running out of air, no question. It really needs a 67.


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So was this run with or without the nitrous? Thanks for posting up another pic.
No nitrous. We are going to spray it soon however and certainly I will update with a graph and numbers.
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Originally Posted by InsaneSpeed
Totally different set up, one Evo 8, one Evo 9, etc....Not much on those two cars is the same.

so youre saying that the evo 8 is way more efficient than this evo 9 "race" built motor ect?!....
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Originally Posted by jezefink
Hey guys 1st congrats on the clean build. Please don’t take offence to all including myself that are skeptical about the numbers.

I ran the post and graph by my builder(Dogboxracing) to ask them there take. Considering they are one of if not the highest HP Evo’s built 170+traps on low boost( 40psi). I listen when they talk.

They believe the graph and numbers and said it is impressive. It can be done with moving cam timing/ overlap into left field. This can make a early peak numbers but they drop like rocks. Overall they are guessing the car will have a hard time breaking 160+ traps. Due to the power drop and small power band. It looks great on paper but not the best on the blacktop.

I am not trying to start a war but my interested are in cam design and valve timing as I am trying to get the most out of a street setup. Does this make any sense to you guys?

I wouldn't argue at all with any of what you said except the power band being small, as we make over 650awhp from 4800-8800rpm. Cam timing is certainly a big part of making the big torque number. This car was really meant to be a street car with ridiculous mid range and big torque. If we wanted an all out drag set up, it would make more sense to alter cam timing and go with a larger turbo. That, I don't disagree with at all. It was built to be a street killer, and I think they are absolutely right about a high 150's trap speed and having a rough time breaking 160 in it's current configuration.

As for the aluminum rods that someone else asked about. We already street tested the rods for over 20,000 street miles on a different Evo without any adverse issues. Everything was completely in order of what was hoped for after opening up the engine, tearing it down, and measuring everything. After our own personal R&D and discussing the set up with GRP, we feel confident in the rods for street use.


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