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Old Jan 17, 2016, 03:00 PM
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Hello, I'm an evo newbie and had a few quick questions!
I'm a fully bolted evo 9 stock turbo
Current mods
255lph walbro fp
Ams turbo back 3 inch
Tial recir bov
Ams upper/lower kc
Ets ic
Stm intake
Hallman pro MBC
I'm currently at 350awhp and 285tq 93 octane according to a virtual dyno.
I recently purchased 1100cc injectors with a proper tune on e85 how much powe gain can I expect?
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Originally Posted by Harsh476
Hello, I'm an evo newbie and had a few quick questions!
I'm a fully bolted evo 9 stock turbo
Current mods
255lph walbro fp
Ams turbo back 3 inch
Tial recir bov
Ams upper/lower kc
Ets ic
Stm intake
Hallman pro MBC
I'm currently at 350awhp and 285tq 93 octane according to a virtual dyno.
I recently purchased 1100cc injectors with a proper tune on e85 how much powe gain can I expect?
First things first your torque is really low. Secondly, ditch the MBC and get a 3 port. On E85 you'll be able to hit around 380-400 with a tuner who knows what they're doing.
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Originally Posted by Harsh476
Hello, I'm an evo newbie and had a few quick questions!
I'm a fully bolted evo 9 stock turbo
Current mods
255lph walbro fp
Ams turbo back 3 inch
Tial recir bov
Ams upper/lower kc
Ets ic
Stm intake
Hallman pro MBC
I'm currently at 350awhp and 285tq 93 octane according to a virtual dyno.
I recently purchased 1100cc injectors with a proper tune on e85 how much powe gain can I expect?
From what I've seen, you should be around 375-380 before the turbo is maxed. Cams would get you 400.

I'm curious as to why your torque is so low though.
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From what I've seen, you should be around 375-380 before the turbo is maxed. Cams would get you 400.

I'm curious as to why your torque is so low though.
I'm on a safe tune, and it worked out best in the actual driving experience. I do plan on increasing it with the e85 tune!
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Originally Posted by e_kobz
First things first your torque is really low. Secondly, ditch the MBC and get a 3 port. On E85 you'll be able to hit around 380-400 with a tuner who knows what they're doing.
I see okay thank you, and I'll look into it!
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Originally Posted by kaj
From what I've seen, you should be around 375-380 before the turbo is maxed. Cams would get you 400.

I'm curious as to why your torque is so low though.
Cams would get it over 400. Aaron (JohnBradley) did 420whp on a IX with a stock turbo, E85, and cams
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OP I sent you a pm. And I would just keep your torque below 380wtq of you have the 6 speed tranny
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Originally Posted by Harsh476
I'm on a safe tune, and it worked out best in the actual driving experience. I do plan on increasing it with the e85 tune!
Well, there is safe, then there is "why ?" 😀
I made 300+wtq on 91, safe tune.

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Cams would get it over 400. Aaron (JohnBradley) did 420whp on a IX with a stock turbo, E85, and cams
True. I should have added that I request my tunes be on the safer side. I wouldn't feel comfortable pushing a stock turbo over 400. For me, the risk isn't worth the reward.
But that's why I have a disclaimer in my Sig LOL.
I also tend to beat on my car harder than most people, so I need a decent safety margin.
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I'm thinking those injectors are max for 93 but I'd go next size up for e85
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Originally Posted by Jonno99
I'm thinking those injectors are max for 93 but I'd go next size up for e85
1100cc will do around 450whp on E85
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Originally Posted by e_kobz
1100cc will do around 450whp on E85
I dunno, man. Had 1100s that were way up in duty cycle @ 400. I'd be kinda nervous.
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Originally Posted by kaj
I dunno, man. Had 1100s that were way up in duty cycle @ 400. I'd be kinda nervous.
Interesting. I'm at 450whp and at 90% IDC. Bad pump maybe?
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Originally Posted by e_kobz
Interesting. I'm at 450whp and at 90% IDC. Bad pump maybe?
the fuel pump was getting maxed out right around 475-480 or so, i think. i'm really impressed with the Walbro 255s; they seem to pump more than they should LOL. on the 1100s/e85 i was in the 90%s on duty (right around 400ish), but i try to keep it at 80% or less. maybe that's why.

maybe i'm remembering wrong. it's been a couple years.

**edit: using my math:

450whp x 2 = 900cc (pump gas) + 30% for e85 = 1170cc, so it makes sense 1100s would work.
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Originally Posted by kaj
the fuel pump was getting maxed out right around 475-480 or so, i think. i'm really impressed with the Walbro 255s; they seem to pump more than they should LOL. on the 1100s/e85 i was in the 90%s on duty (right around 400ish), but i try to keep it at 80% or less. maybe that's why.

maybe i'm remembering wrong. it's been a couple years.

**edit: using my math:

450whp x 2 = 900cc (pump gas) + 30% for e85 = 1170cc, so it makes sense 1100s would work.
I was planning on running 1100cc injectors on my current X build but after the math they won't be enough. Gonna run ID1300's to be safe


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