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Old Oct 26, 2004, 08:44 PM
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wow well ill let you know what's up after then guys
Old Nov 3, 2004, 09:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Az3ar
and NO you are wrong your cams will not do well with a bigger turbo they will over lap... I have done so much research and the best cams for my turbo will be piper cams. your cams are going to waste.. When you upgrade you are spouse to upgrade the turbo first and match the cams after not the other way around buddy.




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Old Nov 3, 2004, 10:09 PM
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Originally Posted by neonhero
To end some confusion.

ATP 3071 W/ .63 A/R
750cc injectors
No software tuning
SAFC
Profec B 2 Boost Controller
3" exhaust no cat.
110 Octane ERC racegas 28 psi
Custom made intake with K&N cone filter.

That is all I have. NOTHING else.

A/F ratio was 12.8 ~13 : 1

This is on a Dynojet AWD. with SAE correction
kinda lean eh?
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Originally Posted by gsujeff55
kinda lean eh?
I can go leaner if I wanted to since I'm using 110 octane. The reason people put the A/F around 10.5~11 to 1 is because they are tuning for pump gas which is easier to burn. Since pump gas is easier to burn greater the chance for detonation / knock. So putting it at a rich mixture will help the car not to knock under WOT.
Old Nov 4, 2004, 01:20 PM
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FWIW, I'd think you should be able to make more power with a more capable tuning device, as I'm only about 40hp down with a 16G, pump fuel, and a cat converter.

Oh, just saw that you are not running cams. Should be some power in there as well.

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Originally Posted by neonhero
I can go leaner if I wanted to since I'm using 110 octane. The reason people put the A/F around 10.5~11 to 1 is because they are tuning for pump gas which is easier to burn. Since pump gas is easier to burn greater the chance for detonation / knock. So putting it at a rich mixture will help the car not to knock under WOT.
I hope you are kidding that you can go leaner. As a General standard, I try to stick to 12.0-12.2 on 110 and high boost, and 12.4-12.5 on C16. 12.9-13.0 is pretty damn lean for any boosted or spraying motor on a gas type fuel. In my oppinion you are asking for trouble in the long run. -Cosmo
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Originally Posted by Ted B
FWIW, I'd think you should be able to make more power with a more capable tuning device, as I'm only about 40hp down with a 16G, pump fuel, and a cat converter.

Oh, just saw that you are not running cams. Should be some power in there as well.
I'm thinking with cams, cam gears, bigger intercooler and proper tuning of timing, I should be able to reach 450 WHP or so. The biggest limitation I found is the stock ECU will only advance the timing 8~10 degrees at WOT.
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Originally Posted by neonhero
I'm thinking with cams, cam gears, bigger intercooler and proper tuning of timing, I should be able to reach 450 WHP or so. The biggest limitation I found is the stock ECU will only advance the timing 8~10 degrees at WOT.

exactly.... I have been saying that for 100 years
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Originally Posted by cosmo
I hope you are kidding that you can go leaner. As a General standard, I try to stick to 12.0-12.2 on 110 and high boost, and 12.4-12.5 on C16. 12.9-13.0 is pretty damn lean for any boosted or spraying motor on a gas type fuel. In my oppinion you are asking for trouble in the long run. -Cosmo
Actually, I'm not kidding. I have run leaner when I race. Up to 13.5 to 1. You say as a general standard I should stick with 12 ~ 12.2 on 110, but with countless hours of dyno tuning showed that even 13.5 was ok. There were on audiable knocking, but the graph that I posted shows that some timing was pulled meaning knock was present; hence the reason I pulled back to a half a point on the A/F. I've been running like this for almost 20,000 miles with a porblem. I did a leak down test a month ago to show about a 5% leak down in all cylinders.
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Originally Posted by Az3ar
exactly.... I have been saying that for 100 years
A 100 years? DAMN... you one old a$$ Evo driver. Glad to have you on the Evo forum GRANDPA.
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Originally Posted by neonhero
A 100 years? DAMN... you one old a$$ Evo driver. Glad to have you on the Evo forum GRANDPA.

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