BR440 Turbokit installed
Dec 2, 2004, 09:04 PM
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BR440 Turbokit installed
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I just finished installing the BR440 turbokit. Everything went smooth, took me about 5 hours total with taking pictures and checking things out along the way. The kit went on with excelent fitment, thumbs up to BR!
Few notes:
I had a VRS o2 housing eliminator downpipe previosly. Flange was not even close to the o2 housing supplied with the kit, so I had to put a BR 3" SS downpipe on. that's a nice piece, and about 2lb lighter than the VRS downpipe. BR's downpipe fit up perfect to the VRS testpipe.
I decided to make a nicer oil drain tube instead of cutting the stock oil return line. We have -10 Aeroquip pushlock fittings and a CNC aluminum flange that bolts to the oil pan. cleaner and more professional way to do it IMHO. About $40 on top of the BR turbo kit.
going out now to do some tuning/testing with the EMS. I went out this morning and got an excelent datalog of hp/tq/rpm/boost/air temp with the stock turbo in 2-5 gears. Will be able to make direct comparason of spoolup and hp/tq gain between the stock and 440 turbo probobly tommorrow.
only issue I see now is that I still have the stock 550 injectors on the car. might run out of fuel on pumpgas trying to push this turbo hard? Still have the stock cams and FMIC as well.
Will report back tonight after I get back to the shop.
going to Atco Dragway next weekend to test&tune on racegas.
I just finished installing the BR440 turbokit. Everything went smooth, took me about 5 hours total with taking pictures and checking things out along the way. The kit went on with excelent fitment, thumbs up to BR!
Few notes:
I had a VRS o2 housing eliminator downpipe previosly. Flange was not even close to the o2 housing supplied with the kit, so I had to put a BR 3" SS downpipe on. that's a nice piece, and about 2lb lighter than the VRS downpipe. BR's downpipe fit up perfect to the VRS testpipe.
I decided to make a nicer oil drain tube instead of cutting the stock oil return line. We have -10 Aeroquip pushlock fittings and a CNC aluminum flange that bolts to the oil pan. cleaner and more professional way to do it IMHO. About $40 on top of the BR turbo kit.
going out now to do some tuning/testing with the EMS. I went out this morning and got an excelent datalog of hp/tq/rpm/boost/air temp with the stock turbo in 2-5 gears. Will be able to make direct comparason of spoolup and hp/tq gain between the stock and 440 turbo probobly tommorrow.
only issue I see now is that I still have the stock 550 injectors on the car. might run out of fuel on pumpgas trying to push this turbo hard? Still have the stock cams and FMIC as well.
Will report back tonight after I get back to the shop.
going to Atco Dragway next weekend to test&tune on racegas.
Dec 2, 2004, 09:07 PM
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This would be my second choice Turbo after the ATP kit. Most important is what is the spool like, thenhow much more power did you make ( for Auto-x purposes)
Looking forward to how far you can go on the emissions friendly stock cams.
Dec 2, 2004, 09:16 PM
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Nice! If you don't go 11's on that thing, I'll be shocked. I would have like to see you try the cams first and see how far you could take the stock turbo, but I guess the season is getting too close to over.
Dec 2, 2004, 09:47 PM
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Just some advice from our experince with these turbos - you need to have all the supporting parts to get them to make the serious power
They need intercooler pipes - they need cams and they need injectors
Best of luck - I think you will find that its a great performing turbo and a great value
They need intercooler pipes - they need cams and they need injectors
Best of luck - I think you will find that its a great performing turbo and a great value
Dec 2, 2004, 10:49 PM
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Originally Posted by DynoFlash
Just some advice from our experince with these turbos - you need to have all the supporting parts to get them to make the serious power
They need intercooler pipes - they need cams and they need injectors
Best of luck - I think you will find that its a great performing turbo and a great value
They need intercooler pipes - they need cams and they need injectors
Best of luck - I think you will find that its a great performing turbo and a great value
The injectors..well at 23psi Im still fine. AF is in the low 11's with the br440. on racegas, I have plenty of room to lean it out and bump the boost to 27-28. on pumpgas 23psi is enough, and my wideband is saying Im safely rich. so for injectors, Im going to stick with the stockers for winter. they are maxed out at 90-95% IDC, but the AF is good.
Cams...no doubt cams would have been smart and worthwhile to do before the turbo upgrade. 20hp/$600 is better than 40hp/$2300 for sure. BUT I figured noone has done the turbo with stock cams, might as well see what happens. I generally like to prove/disprove the "modification order" when I can and do things differently than the norm. sometimes you find out things work just as well earleir or later.
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onto the good stuff:
I made some WOT logs...looks like the turbo was worth a pretty substantial gain with no other changes. The spoolup is definatly not as good as stock, but I have not done ANY tuning yet other than riched up from 5000rpm up to make it safe. looks from the AEM logs to be around 30whp stronger and the hp holds up longer than with the stock turbo.
will see what I can do for stock vs 440 graph overlays tommorrow.
Im pretty confident that the turbo will be worth about 3-4mph on pumpgas and more on racegas.
I made some WOT logs...looks like the turbo was worth a pretty substantial gain with no other changes. The spoolup is definatly not as good as stock, but I have not done ANY tuning yet other than riched up from 5000rpm up to make it safe. looks from the AEM logs to be around 30whp stronger and the hp holds up longer than with the stock turbo.
will see what I can do for stock vs 440 graph overlays tommorrow.
Im pretty confident that the turbo will be worth about 3-4mph on pumpgas and more on racegas.
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Originally Posted by DSMotorsport
I decided to make a nicer oil drain tube instead of cutting the stock oil return line. We have -10 Aeroquip pushlock fittings and a CNC aluminum flange that bolts to the oil pan. cleaner and more professional way to do it IMHO. About $40 on top of the BR turbo kit.
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Originally Posted by DrEvo
I am very interested in your oil return line, can you post pics up or do you have a link of it to your website? Thanks.
in middle of the page..there is "oil drain line kit" I used the parts in the middle picture. fittment is for garrett turbo. On my car, I only used the AN fitting and flange on the oil pan side and left the flange/brass fitting on the turbo end as supplied from BR. Didn't feel like wrecking the stock line, incase the stock turbo has to go back on for some reason.
mind you that is a DSM parts page, all the links in the header will take you to the DSM side of the site, not the EVO side...just incase you decide to surf around.
Dec 2, 2004, 11:31 PM
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Originally Posted by DSMotorsport
http://www.diamondstarmotorsport.com...allparts.shtml
in middle of the page..there is "oil drain line kit" I used the parts in the middle picture. fittment is for garrett turbo. On my car, I only used the AN fitting and flange on the oil pan side and left the flange/brass fitting on the turbo end as supplied from BR. Didn't feel like wrecking the stock line, incase the stock turbo has to go back on for some reason.
mind you that is a DSM parts page, all the links in the header will take you to the DSM side of the site, not the EVO side...just incase you decide to surf around.
in middle of the page..there is "oil drain line kit" I used the parts in the middle picture. fittment is for garrett turbo. On my car, I only used the AN fitting and flange on the oil pan side and left the flange/brass fitting on the turbo end as supplied from BR. Didn't feel like wrecking the stock line, incase the stock turbo has to go back on for some reason.
mind you that is a DSM parts page, all the links in the header will take you to the DSM side of the site, not the EVO side...just incase you decide to surf around.
Dec 2, 2004, 11:42 PM
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We will be updating our website tommorrow, Ill add the drain line options to the EVO turbo kit page as well.
nice now that we got the BR shippment in, we can get our own photography up. I hate using other companies photos.
nice now that we got the BR shippment in, we can get our own photography up. I hate using other companies photos.
