Upgrade Path for U.S. EVO
Dec 27, 2002, 08:53 AM
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Originally posted by CooperAWD
Anyways, many people use the stock intercooler... i doubt you'll need anything else (ITS HUGE) The core is similiar sized to the large Greddy 2g kit (probably the biggest kit made for an eclipse)... and since it has a FMIC, it has IC piping stock! (2.5" i believe)
Anyways, many people use the stock intercooler... i doubt you'll need anything else (ITS HUGE) The core is similiar sized to the large Greddy 2g kit (probably the biggest kit made for an eclipse)... and since it has a FMIC, it has IC piping stock! (2.5" i believe)
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since when is an evo a "drifter car?" its not really a drifter car (AWD isnt good for true drifting). Besides, drifting isnt the best way to race (its not good to have no traction... sole purpose of AWD).
since when is an evo a "drifter car?" its not really a drifter car (AWD isnt good for true drifting). Besides, drifting isnt the best way to race (its not good to have no traction... sole purpose of AWD).
BTW, the current record holder at the Drift Challenge held in Hockenheim every year is Katsuo Kobayashi with the Jun HyperLemon Evo
Dec 27, 2002, 08:55 PM
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Claudius, Assuming no hard launches, how much horsepower can the stock clutch take? Also what clutch (es) works well for track days (not drag racing) etc.?
Dec 28, 2002, 06:07 AM
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The stock clutch slips if you clutch in above 4500 rpm (or maybe even slightly less) even when the car is stock. Not talking about dropping the clutch, just fast clutching in.
I personally like paddle clutches for the grip and low price
Twin plate clutches are very heavy (I could barely lift up an HKS twin plate! 
j/k but it was at least 25 lbs) and thus increase transmission loss.
I think 350 bhp approx (1.5 bars of boost on stock Evo with exhaust) will be an approximate upper limit for the clutch if you dont launch it hard.
I personally like paddle clutches for the grip and low price
Twin plate clutches are very heavy (I could barely lift up an HKS twin plate! j/k but it was at least 25 lbs) and thus increase transmission loss.I think 350 bhp approx (1.5 bars of boost on stock Evo with exhaust) will be an approximate upper limit for the clutch if you dont launch it hard.
Jan 9, 2003, 12:27 PM
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If Previous Evo Parts r able to go on the US Version..u should check out http://www.lancerevoclub.com... theres an upgrade path on there for all previous evo gen. 
Jan 12, 2003, 07:07 PM
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We currently sell products for the wrx and mp3/protege5 such as turbo upgrades and turbo kits. We fabricate and plan on making turbo upgrade kits with the a bigger turbo (20 or 25g) stainless oil lines, bigger injectors and a fatty downpipe for the new evo.
We are just awaiting for the arrival of the evo and will feverishly get to work
We are just awaiting for the arrival of the evo and will feverishly get to work
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Jan 12, 2003, 08:46 PM
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Terry, Please include us road racers/ autocrossers in you upgrade plans. A set-up that spools super fast with a better than stock (75-100hp!) top end pull. Please!
Jan 17, 2003, 01:32 PM
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Good Info...
But heres what I would suggest.(I'm thinking power on a small budget.)
As far as power upgrades: First step is Exhaust, then Air-intake, then Boost controller(preferably Blitz...They spike less), then clutch, (Then you start talking money) 18G or 20G turbo(Up the boost), upgrade fuel system (Injectors, Rails, Pump etc. etc) And lastly intercoolers.
(There will probably be more trick stuff coming out for the EVO but they will all be variations of above.)
As for Handling.
Most people will be satisfied with the handling and not do a thing, but for those that are'nt.
Very simple- Tein. Anything less then that is obsolete, and not worthy of an EVO. It would be like chucking out a factory M3 suspension for Ground Control.
But heres what I would suggest.(I'm thinking power on a small budget.)
As far as power upgrades: First step is Exhaust, then Air-intake, then Boost controller(preferably Blitz...They spike less), then clutch, (Then you start talking money) 18G or 20G turbo(Up the boost), upgrade fuel system (Injectors, Rails, Pump etc. etc) And lastly intercoolers.
(There will probably be more trick stuff coming out for the EVO but they will all be variations of above.)
As for Handling.
Most people will be satisfied with the handling and not do a thing, but for those that are'nt.
Very simple- Tein. Anything less then that is obsolete, and not worthy of an EVO. It would be like chucking out a factory M3 suspension for Ground Control.
Jan 17, 2003, 04:14 PM
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Originally posted by superGTO
As for Handling.
Most people will be satisfied with the handling and not do a thing, but for those that are'nt.
Very simple- Tein. Anything less then that is obsolete, and not worthy of an EVO. It would be like chucking out a factory M3 suspension for Ground Control.
As for Handling.
Most people will be satisfied with the handling and not do a thing, but for those that are'nt.
Very simple- Tein. Anything less then that is obsolete, and not worthy of an EVO. It would be like chucking out a factory M3 suspension for Ground Control.
Any thoughts on just putting on springs to lower it, I hate messing with a good thing, but I also hate fender gap.
Also one of the first things to be replaced should be the BOV, it's the same as a 2G eclipse, so it's a piece of crap plastic that doesn't hold more than around 14 PSI.
Jan 17, 2003, 05:48 PM
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Originally posted by superGTO
As for Handling.
Most people will be satisfied with the handling and not do a thing, but for those that are'nt.
Very simple- Tein. Anything less then that is obsolete, and not worthy of an EVO. It would be like chucking out a factory M3 suspension for Ground Control.
As for Handling.
Most people will be satisfied with the handling and not do a thing, but for those that are'nt.
Very simple- Tein. Anything less then that is obsolete, and not worthy of an EVO. It would be like chucking out a factory M3 suspension for Ground Control.
Jan 17, 2003, 05:52 PM
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I have to disagree. I heard that the ohlins suspension is well worth it if you can shell out the cash.
I have to disagree. I heard that the ohlins suspension is well worth it if you can shell out the cash.
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Also one of the first things to be replaced should be the BOV, it's the same as a 2G eclipse, so it's a piece of crap plastic that doesn't hold more than around 14 PSI.
And you base your assumption on what exactly ??!?!?!? I don't think you've driven an Evo, have you? Doesn't seem like it. How can it be a piece of crap when it holds more than 14 PSI stock. In fact it holds 16-17 held and 19 peak STOCK. It can go higher than that too.
And by the way, the stock valve is not a Blowoff valve (BOV). It's a Bypass valve. Very different things.
Jan 17, 2003, 09:01 PM
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Originally posted by Guack007
I have to disagree. I heard that the ohlins suspension is well worth it if you can shell out the cash.
I have to disagree. I heard that the ohlins suspension is well worth it if you can shell out the cash.
I'm talking about people ruining there stock setup just for a SUPER dumped look. The car might look crazy dumped, but it probably handles like worse then stock.
I have a GTO TT (VR4) and I've been tempted to lower my car several times. but I have Electronic Controlled Suspension. With a push of a button I can have a soft touring style ride, or I can have a sport (Better grab a oh **** handle!) aggresive ride.
Now even though I have a world of fender gap, I know that if I lower my car, it will look good, but handle like crap... my ecs will still think the suspension is at stock height.
(The above statement is for VR4 models only-Base and SL models can scrape the floor if they wanted too.)
My only true option is 18 or 19 inch rims and MAYBE a 1 inch spring drop.
Jan 17, 2003, 09:09 PM
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WRC4ever... I don't think he should have said the stock bypass valve sucked, but if you were to go to an open atmosphere BOV (HKS SSBV style) you WILL notice increased boost response (Which will give a feeling of more power and better acceleration). That goes to whether it's a Supra TT/GTO TT/ Skyline/ or EVO.