368whp pumpgas (stock turbo)
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Originally Posted by Smogrunner
First of all, great job Doug! Seeing those numbers makes me feel glad I followed the stock"ish" turbo route. Those torque numbers are ungodly. I'll take you up on the same power for less money challenge though. First, I'd like to make one point: You should post the map you sent the customer home with. You yourself said there was some sort of a knock event at 6800 so we are really comparing a final number of 350, right?
You're customer and I actually have an extremely comparable setup so I'll just compare the differences:
I saved $1600 for the Xede instead of the AEM
I saved $450 by keeping my stock injectors.
I saved $300 by keeping my stock airbox.
I save $50 by not using manual boost controller.
I lost $950 by adding the 10.5ti (hotside is just $250)
I lost $100 for the Xedeflash
So, in the end, I saved $1,350. That is a lot of money. Had I gone with the hotside only, I would have saved $2050. Remember, all this talk about 10.5 etc is quickly becoming a mute point, as all 2005s have it stock. You did not mention what year this car was. But assuming you did it on a 03 or 04, that is impressive indeed.
Next, this map is a 91 octane map. As the good tuner you are (and I honestly believe that), you know that a significant amount of HP was left on the table for the lower octane tuning. I did not touch my tune, just dynoed it on my straight 91 octane tune. I'm sure you'll agree that I would have at least 5 to 10 more hp and at least 10ft/lb more torque than that on a 93 tune. Talk to Al and other tuners who have to play ball on 91 octane and they will tell you it is truly challenging to make big safe power on that pisswater.
Still, I am very impressed with those numbers, especially the torque. Great job.
You're customer and I actually have an extremely comparable setup so I'll just compare the differences:
I saved $1600 for the Xede instead of the AEM
I saved $450 by keeping my stock injectors.
I saved $300 by keeping my stock airbox.
I save $50 by not using manual boost controller.
I lost $950 by adding the 10.5ti (hotside is just $250)
I lost $100 for the Xedeflash
So, in the end, I saved $1,350. That is a lot of money. Had I gone with the hotside only, I would have saved $2050. Remember, all this talk about 10.5 etc is quickly becoming a mute point, as all 2005s have it stock. You did not mention what year this car was. But assuming you did it on a 03 or 04, that is impressive indeed.
Next, this map is a 91 octane map. As the good tuner you are (and I honestly believe that), you know that a significant amount of HP was left on the table for the lower octane tuning. I did not touch my tune, just dynoed it on my straight 91 octane tune. I'm sure you'll agree that I would have at least 5 to 10 more hp and at least 10ft/lb more torque than that on a 93 tune. Talk to Al and other tuners who have to play ball on 91 octane and they will tell you it is truly challenging to make big safe power on that pisswater.
Still, I am very impressed with those numbers, especially the torque. Great job.
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After making the last few runs I decided to install a HKS DLi and put her back on the dyno. What a suprise the turbo spools up much quicker and the car holds boost better all the way through the rpms. You gotta love that flat tq and hp curve all above 350.
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