EVC 5 offset setting & install qns
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EVC 5 offset setting & install qns
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For an internal wastegate turbo (like e stock one), the higher the offset, the faster max boost will be reached, but the max boost will be of a lower value right?
Currently, my vol. gain is 88% and offset is 130% - EVC peak reaches 1.52kPa. Can I run it like: 100%/160% respectively? Are there ANY detrimental effects at all to have such a high offset setting?
Also, the pdf file for the install says that the stepper motor should be installed such that the 3 hoses are facing "up"; but mine is currently facing "down" now. May I know the rationale for this recommandation?
Went to a dyno recently. My defi gauges recorded the run: the needle went up to 1.7bar, stays there for a while, then gradually drops to 1.5bar. Is this normal? Have e Greddy Type S BOV btw.
Thanks for all fourthcoming replies.
For an internal wastegate turbo (like e stock one), the higher the offset, the faster max boost will be reached, but the max boost will be of a lower value right?
Currently, my vol. gain is 88% and offset is 130% - EVC peak reaches 1.52kPa. Can I run it like: 100%/160% respectively? Are there ANY detrimental effects at all to have such a high offset setting?
Also, the pdf file for the install says that the stepper motor should be installed such that the 3 hoses are facing "up"; but mine is currently facing "down" now. May I know the rationale for this recommandation?
Went to a dyno recently. My defi gauges recorded the run: the needle went up to 1.7bar, stays there for a while, then gradually drops to 1.5bar. Is this normal? Have e Greddy Type S BOV btw.
Thanks for all fourthcoming replies.
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You answered the second one already. Hoses go up.
Most likely the pintle on the stepper motor will move under it's own weight if it is facing down.
I can't remember my settings probably 86/170 or so.
You want a high offset but what you need to look at is the ability to hold boost at the higher RPMs. IF your offset is too high you will drop boost up top. That's the difference.
The idea is to reach your boost level and hold it there.
Most likely the pintle on the stepper motor will move under it's own weight if it is facing down.
I can't remember my settings probably 86/170 or so.
You want a high offset but what you need to look at is the ability to hold boost at the higher RPMs. IF your offset is too high you will drop boost up top. That's the difference.
The idea is to reach your boost level and hold it there.
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Hi timzcat, thanks for yr explanation.
"Most likely the pintle on the stepper motor will move under it's own weight if it is facing down"
I'm not exactly a technie, so what are the implications/effects of the pintle moving on its own?
So am I correct to say to set a high offset, wouldn't cause anything to break or fail prematurely etc?
Thanks again pal.
"Most likely the pintle on the stepper motor will move under it's own weight if it is facing down"
I'm not exactly a technie, so what are the implications/effects of the pintle moving on its own?
So am I correct to say to set a high offset, wouldn't cause anything to break or fail prematurely etc?
Thanks again pal.
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"I'm not exactly a technie, so what are the implications/effects of the pintle moving on its own?
So am I correct to say to set a high offset, wouldn't cause anything to break or fail prematurely etc?"
Tim or anyone...?
So am I correct to say to set a high offset, wouldn't cause anything to break or fail prematurely etc?"
Tim or anyone...?
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the weight of the pintle could move under it's own weight when oriented incorrectly, thus changing boost or position reference and confusing the controller.
I don't see any reason you would experience problems with the boost coming in harder. It's not like a huge difference but you can feel it, I'll agree to that.
I don't see any reason you would experience problems with the boost coming in harder. It's not like a huge difference but you can feel it, I'll agree to that.
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I don't have an EVC 5 but my EVC EZii also needed to be installed all hose upward. This way the samll hole will face downward. I am guessing the hole is for bleeding off air and facing it downward would prevent anything getting into the hole and blocking it.
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Originally Posted by axl
Hi all.
For an internal wastegate turbo (like e stock one), the higher the offset, the faster max boost will be reached, but the max boost will be of a lower value right?
Currently, my vol. gain is 88% and offset is 130% - EVC peak reaches 1.52kPa. Can I run it like: 100%/160% respectively? Are there ANY detrimental effects at all to have such a high offset setting?
Also, the pdf file for the install says that the stepper motor should be installed such that the 3 hoses are facing "up"; but mine is currently facing "down" now. May I know the rationale for this recommandation?
Went to a dyno recently. My defi gauges recorded the run: the needle went up to 1.7bar, stays there for a while, then gradually drops to 1.5bar. Is this normal? Have e Greddy Type S BOV btw.
Thanks for all fourthcoming replies.
For an internal wastegate turbo (like e stock one), the higher the offset, the faster max boost will be reached, but the max boost will be of a lower value right?
Currently, my vol. gain is 88% and offset is 130% - EVC peak reaches 1.52kPa. Can I run it like: 100%/160% respectively? Are there ANY detrimental effects at all to have such a high offset setting?
Also, the pdf file for the install says that the stepper motor should be installed such that the 3 hoses are facing "up"; but mine is currently facing "down" now. May I know the rationale for this recommandation?
Went to a dyno recently. My defi gauges recorded the run: the needle went up to 1.7bar, stays there for a while, then gradually drops to 1.5bar. Is this normal? Have e Greddy Type S BOV btw.
Thanks for all fourthcoming replies.
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SJ: Which EVC do you have? Mine's the kPA ver. 5 btw.
Vol gain is adjustable via the 2 rotary knobs on the controller. Offset can be positive (boost comes on earlier, but peak reached is lower) or negative (opp effect).
Turn yr vol gain. down first, in anti-clockwise directon. Go into 3rd gear, lowish rpm, floor the car and see the max boost recorded on the EVC display unit (make sure the road is clear & safe!)
Repeat until you reach yr target boost.
Cheers!
Vol gain is adjustable via the 2 rotary knobs on the controller. Offset can be positive (boost comes on earlier, but peak reached is lower) or negative (opp effect).
Turn yr vol gain. down first, in anti-clockwise directon. Go into 3rd gear, lowish rpm, floor the car and see the max boost recorded on the EVC display unit (make sure the road is clear & safe!)
Repeat until you reach yr target boost.
Cheers!
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I have the evc 5,but the psi version.I thought the nobs where used to adjust how much boost you would like.I have mine set at 70 and that usually gives me like 20.5psi.weather depending.I turned my offset to 170% and vol. level is set at 70.So what is the best off set to run wanting to hold higher boost?
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I also have the evc 5 psi version. The col gain is the amount of boost you want. You cant set it at 100 becuase that means 100% more than the stock (11ish psi) This would equate to 22 or more. Of course the weather is a fator. I have mine set to 76 for daily driving, THis is 20.5psi. The offset was set to 100% as default last time I checked, Not sure if I want to fiddle with it.
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SJ: Yar... the knobs adjust the vol. gain %-wise ON TOP of your stock boost. That is, if your stock boost is 1bar, if you dial in 50%, you will get 1.5bar.
Like what inline said, different car, different mods, weather conditions will all play a part. Experiment on your own... but make sure NOT to set an insane boost level and blow yr head gasket yar.
Like what inline said, different car, different mods, weather conditions will all play a part. Experiment on your own... but make sure NOT to set an insane boost level and blow yr head gasket yar.
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