word to the wise about mitsu and recalls
#16
That's some scary ****. Hmm, Mitsubishi seems to be ****ing themselves up more and more in my eyes. They don't really have the greatest record for many of their cars and SUVs (Mitsubishi Montero was the worst rated SUV for safety). Now transfercases locking up... Doesn't really help that the EVO is now being produced on an assembly-line instead of by RalliArt.
#17
Originally posted by BurnOutz
That's some scary ****. Hmm, Mitsubishi seems to be ****ing themselves up more and more in my eyes. They don't really have the greatest record for many of their cars and SUVs (Mitsubishi Montero was the worst rated SUV for safety). Now transfercases locking up... Doesn't really help that the EVO is now being produced on an assembly-line instead of by RalliArt.
That's some scary ****. Hmm, Mitsubishi seems to be ****ing themselves up more and more in my eyes. They don't really have the greatest record for many of their cars and SUVs (Mitsubishi Montero was the worst rated SUV for safety). Now transfercases locking up... Doesn't really help that the EVO is now being produced on an assembly-line instead of by RalliArt.
The Montero is one of the most reliable SUV's on the road and quite safe (see hwysafety.org), Worldwide(see sites in Australia, England and others).
The Montero Sport was also rated as one of the safest SUV's (see hwysafety.org). In terms of reliability, yeah, the DSM's had some problems, but all the data available still includes the older models pre '99. Also, you are probably biased by the recall of 2000.
Once again poeple, lets stay open-minded. I agree it sucks for those that got shafted. However, at the same time, remember that there are over 2 million DSM's out there, and the majority of them did not have the same experience.
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http://www.consumersunion.org/products/2001mitres2.htm
"Consumer Retards"?
Who's got the profit motive, Mitsubishi or CR? CR didn't harass the other SUV's, just the Montero.
-bd
"Consumer Retards"?
Who's got the profit motive, Mitsubishi or CR? CR didn't harass the other SUV's, just the Montero.
-bd
#19
Yeah, but Consumer Reports has a history of biased reporting, fixing test outcomes and representing a limited demographic. The same applies to J.D. Power and associates. The NHTSA found no validity in CR claims to even start an investigation.
CR=biased and unreliable. Case closed.
CR=biased and unreliable. Case closed.
#20
His info on Mitsu is all bull****. In 2000 I bought a 95 Eclipse GST with 52,000 miles on it. It had a slipping clutch so it wasn't long before I had that replaced with an ACT clutch. It wasn't long before I added performance parts, namely intake, upper IC pipe and boost controller. Shorlty thereafter at about 57,000 miles the dreaded "crankwalk" hit. Mitsu acknowledged the fact that I had upped the boost and had an aftermarket clutch on the car which had been blamed in the past for this problem but still the car was under the 5/60 powertrain warranty and mitsu honored it by replacing the long block. They did advise me to take off the aftermarket parts but fixed the problem anyway. I'm not worried.
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From: Why do they always call the Evo the Dark Side?
Originally posted by evomk8
Yeah, but Consumer Reports has a history of biased reporting, fixing test outcomes and representing a limited demographic. The same applies to J.D. Power and associates. The NHTSA found no validity in CR claims to even start an investigation.
CR=biased and unreliable. Case closed.
Yeah, but Consumer Reports has a history of biased reporting, fixing test outcomes and representing a limited demographic. The same applies to J.D. Power and associates. The NHTSA found no validity in CR claims to even start an investigation.
CR=biased and unreliable. Case closed.
http://www.financialexpress.com/fe/d.../fco24065.html
That, combined with the stuff from this thread, is why I will probably never own a Mitsubishi. (The Evo is sweet and all, but I don't like supporting companies that act like this; Subaru might watch mods so it doesn't have to hand out free transmissions, but that's not anything near the realm of systematic cover-up)
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#23
Originally posted by Butt Dyno
Are you saying it didn't happen? Whether or not the NHTSA actually did anything about it doesn't matter to me. I'd much rather go with something I don't have to wonder about.
http://www.financialexpress.com/fe/d.../fco24065.html
That, combined with the stuff from this thread, is why I will probably never own a Mitsubishi. (The Evo is sweet and all, but I don't like supporting companies that act like this; Subaru might watch mods so it doesn't have to hand out free transmissions, but that's not anything near the realm of systematic cover-up)
-bd
Are you saying it didn't happen? Whether or not the NHTSA actually did anything about it doesn't matter to me. I'd much rather go with something I don't have to wonder about.
http://www.financialexpress.com/fe/d.../fco24065.html
That, combined with the stuff from this thread, is why I will probably never own a Mitsubishi. (The Evo is sweet and all, but I don't like supporting companies that act like this; Subaru might watch mods so it doesn't have to hand out free transmissions, but that's not anything near the realm of systematic cover-up)
-bd
Here's another friendly site:
http://home.sprynet.com/~mklphoto/SUBARU1.HTM
I posted the above to illustrate that individual experiences form opinions about carmakers, they are experienced by a limited number of people. Thus, unless you personally were affected, I see no reason to be judgemental. You've never even owned a . I've owned their cars since 1984 in Switzerland and the U.S. My experience so far has been without complaints.
#24
I've got a 93 GSX with 133,000 on it... Runs consistant mid 12's and never had to do anything to the transfer case... I received a recall letter about it but never brought it in... Eventually after cleaning the car out, I found the letter in my glove and took it over anyways... They changed it without any problems and were very excited to "test drive" it after the completion.. They told me to keep up the good work with the mods... Go figure!!
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i have owned an A76 mitsubishi lancer and it ran up to 200,000 miles before i need to change the heads and gasket only, i owned a mitsubishi galant and it has 194,000 miles, no major work done on the engine or the transmission, just regular oil change and tranny oil and filter change and is my daily driver for winter. had a mercedes station wagon and the maintenance was just expensive, finally gave up at 150,000 miles.
#27
Originally posted by evomk8
Montero, worst rated. Where d'ya get that from: "Consumer Retards"?
The Montero is one of the most reliable SUV's on the road and quite safe (see hwysafety.org), Worldwide(see sites in Australia, England and others).
The Montero Sport was also rated as one of the safest SUV's (see hwysafety.org). In terms of reliability, yeah, the DSM's had some problems, but all the data available still includes the older models pre '99. Also, you are probably biased by the recall of 2000.
Once again poeple, lets stay open-minded. I agree it sucks for those that got shafted. However, at the same time, remember that there are over 2 million DSM's out there, and the majority of them did not have the same experience.
Montero, worst rated. Where d'ya get that from: "Consumer Retards"?
The Montero is one of the most reliable SUV's on the road and quite safe (see hwysafety.org), Worldwide(see sites in Australia, England and others).
The Montero Sport was also rated as one of the safest SUV's (see hwysafety.org). In terms of reliability, yeah, the DSM's had some problems, but all the data available still includes the older models pre '99. Also, you are probably biased by the recall of 2000.
Once again poeple, lets stay open-minded. I agree it sucks for those that got shafted. However, at the same time, remember that there are over 2 million DSM's out there, and the majority of them did not have the same experience.
I'm not questioning the reliability of the SUV. I was questioning the safety of the car. I have heard from many people that this SUV is not safe especially in handling. BTW, I believe they have fixed that problem with the newer Monteros. Have you noticed how the new Montero is now wider? I wonder why...
#28
Originally posted by evomk8
However, at the same time, remember that there are over 2 million DSM's out there, and the majority of them did not have the same experience.
However, at the same time, remember that there are over 2 million DSM's out there, and the majority of them did not have the same experience.
Also, saying that the majority of them did not share the same experience is quite ignorant. Crankwalk anyone? Sure, not many of them had this problem but it is still enough to veer me away from buying one.
Even if 1 in a thousand AWD DSMs have this problem, I would still be pretty damn scared driving it knowing that I could be part of the minority and have the transfer case lock up on me while driving on the freeway and get myself killed.
#29
Originally posted by BurnOutz
My question is, how many AWD DSMs are out there. It would probably be a much lower number.
Also, saying that the majority of them did not share the same experience is quite ignorant. Crankwalk anyone? Sure, not many of them had this problem but it is still enough to veer me away from buying one.
Even if 1 in a thousand AWD DSMs have this problem, I would still be pretty damn scared driving it knowing that I could be part of the minority and have the transfer case lock up on me while driving on the freeway and get myself killed.
My question is, how many AWD DSMs are out there. It would probably be a much lower number.
Also, saying that the majority of them did not share the same experience is quite ignorant. Crankwalk anyone? Sure, not many of them had this problem but it is still enough to veer me away from buying one.
Even if 1 in a thousand AWD DSMs have this problem, I would still be pretty damn scared driving it knowing that I could be part of the minority and have the transfer case lock up on me while driving on the freeway and get myself killed.
If I came across as insensitive I apologize, that was not the intent. I also do not discount your fear and feelings.
My point was that you cannot condemn an entire car maker and make the claim that their cars are poor quality and unreliable.
The DSM's we're referring to are no longer in production. Adding on the Lancer EVO I-III to the production total of cars experiencing crankwalk, we still have a very small number given 's global production total.
Regarding the Montero, as posted, see the hwysafety.org site.
The Montero's is wider, but track has only increased 0.1inches. The suspension would be where adjustments would have had to be made for handling improvements. The car is safe. Some people may feel it is not because the suspension is geared for off-road use and soft for that reason. The Montero is a "real" offroader not one of those wimpy SUV's from Honda, Ford or GM.
Again, the NHTSA investigates and issues recalls on unsafe vehicles.
#30
You gotta pay to play.
No car company can cover a modified car.
Where do you draw the line? 650hp?
There is no free lunch!
You are already getting the best car for the money.
You want more, there will be a cost.
Is the cost of a voided warranty worth it?
That is up to you.
How much can you afford?
if you are 18 years old making $21000, living with parents
you should not race or modify car unless you have a free lawyer
that can fight for your warranty.
No car company can cover a modified car.
Where do you draw the line? 650hp?
There is no free lunch!
You are already getting the best car for the money.
You want more, there will be a cost.
Is the cost of a voided warranty worth it?
That is up to you.
How much can you afford?
if you are 18 years old making $21000, living with parents
you should not race or modify car unless you have a free lawyer
that can fight for your warranty.