question on jetcoating the manif.
Mar 17, 2005, 09:03 AM
#31
Originally Posted by eve-slow
Is that a Buscher ported and coated stocker? I don't recognize it because I havn't looked at my rusty manifold for a while.
Mar 17, 2005, 11:26 AM
#32
i am amazed that he (honki) would talk about painting the manifold. Maybe he needs to learn about the difference between a high temperature coating and Walmart high temp paint. Seems like he's going down a road I would not take....i hate peeling paint from a manifold.
If im not mistaken, Timcatz is the first to post a Buschur porting/coating job. Thanks...ive been waiting to see it....and im going for it. I figure the manifold port/coat job, TME, and larger coated 02 housing should make for a nice turbo setup.
yeah...and calling people idiots is immature and against the rules
just like using Walmart paint is against the rules 
If im not mistaken, Timcatz is the first to post a Buschur porting/coating job. Thanks...ive been waiting to see it....and im going for it. I figure the manifold port/coat job, TME, and larger coated 02 housing should make for a nice turbo setup.
yeah...and calling people idiots is immature and against the rules
just like using Walmart paint is against the rules
Last edited by EVOla_VIRUS; Mar 17, 2005 at 11:29 AM.
Mar 18, 2005, 08:41 AM
#33
Originally Posted by timzcat
I hope you mean sandblast and not sandpaper. It has to be clean in order to coat or paint it or it will not stick in the long run.
So you started a topic about coatings and never intended to actually do it? All of your questions about performance increase a basically moot because you plan on painting it and not coating it? How do you propose to paint the inside of the runners which is just as important as the outside? Don't you get the point about the Buschur manifold being ported and coated. The port match and clean up is making a difference on top of the coating. Why not save the time an aggrivation to sand and paint your manifold and just spend the 200 for the Buschur one if stopping the rust on the outside is your only interest. At least get as much gain as you can for your hard work. Taking the turbo assembly off via jack is not exactly easy with that damn undertray and all so you are going to spend your time to remove it, sand and paint it, and then reinstall just to look better cosmetically?
btw.. It is against the rules to insult other members, such as calling them idiots.
So you started a topic about coatings and never intended to actually do it? All of your questions about performance increase a basically moot because you plan on painting it and not coating it? How do you propose to paint the inside of the runners which is just as important as the outside? Don't you get the point about the Buschur manifold being ported and coated. The port match and clean up is making a difference on top of the coating. Why not save the time an aggrivation to sand and paint your manifold and just spend the 200 for the Buschur one if stopping the rust on the outside is your only interest. At least get as much gain as you can for your hard work. Taking the turbo assembly off via jack is not exactly easy with that damn undertray and all so you are going to spend your time to remove it, sand and paint it, and then reinstall just to look better cosmetically?
btw.. It is against the rules to insult other members, such as calling them idiots.
Now can we get back to the topic? Anyone out there ever experiment with jetcoating? (read:see any tangible results?)
Mar 18, 2005, 09:53 AM
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Originally Posted by honki24
... sorry for calling names. Wal mart paint? 
hah. I said I do this for a living... 
I know what I'm doing man, leave it up to me. 
hah. I said I do this for a living... I know what I'm doing man, leave it up to me. yeah i agree with you honki, buschur price is very good.... to be very frank, you can get most of the benefit by heatwrapping and ceramic painting it yourself(cheaper ofcourse). you are definetly on the ballpark with your idea. i've wrapped my manifold and sprayed it with black ceramic paint and the effects are immediate. after a spirited run, when you open the hood, you will be greeted with a blast of hot air. after i wrapped it, i can open the hood, and put my hands 6 inches from the manifold and its just toasty.
besides buschur, i also recommend you checking out http://www.jet-hot.com/. I am consider this because they will be able to port it AND have a much cleaner look then the wrapping method. anyhow, goodluck with your project
Mar 18, 2005, 07:25 PM
#37
In Buschur's huge thread on different parts on the dyno he did test the manifold and O2 housing, ported and coated. while it was with other parts on the car that were negatively impacting it, there was a noticable increase in power or regain as it were.
https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/sh...&postcount=246
https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/sh...&postcount=246
Mar 21, 2005, 06:14 AM
#38
yea, I believe it was like 21 hp for both of em, I am definately sold on the porting, however it is just the coating that is in question for me. I already have a steel 02 housing, so to finish up the bundle I needa take her back apart and do this manifold thing, I just want a real difinitive answer on this coating thing... well more over just with respect to the heat because we all know it makes the manifold look nice, but that's not what I am interested in. I'm gonna give my Thermo. Prof. a shot, and hey, if anyone has any further insight, please enligten me.
btw: mifesto: I really appreciate posts like yours, its for posts and responses like that, that I come to EVOM with my questions.
btw: mifesto: I really appreciate posts like yours, its for posts and responses like that, that I come to EVOM with my questions.
Mar 21, 2005, 11:43 AM
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In stock exchange. I had everything back in like 3 days.
The most important part of the coating is the inside not the outside. It's the inside that coating that is going to keep the heat in. That's why I am saying doing just the outside is about useless as far as coating goes. To do the inside they use a what the call a mouse that travels through the pipe or port and coats the inside with the paint.
The most important part of the coating is the inside not the outside. It's the inside that coating that is going to keep the heat in. That's why I am saying doing just the outside is about useless as far as coating goes. To do the inside they use a what the call a mouse that travels through the pipe or port and coats the inside with the paint.
Mar 21, 2005, 02:54 PM
#42
yesevo: don't waste the heat wrap on anything after the turbo, if the heat is usefull at all, it is usefull to drive the turbo, but after that wrap would just be unneccessary weight and work. We're primarily trying to figure out if the heat before the turbo even has a noticeable enough effect to be worthy of $125
don't waste the heat wrap on anything after the turbo, if the heat is usefull at all, it is usefull to drive the turbo, but after that wrap would just be unneccessary weight and work. We're primarily trying to figure out if the heat before the turbo even has a noticeable enough effect to be worthy of $125
Mar 21, 2005, 06:44 PM
#43
Properly done, it will not chip or flake away. That is why it is so important that the material is properly sandblasted and perfectly clean. It still effectively nothing but a paint with aluminum suspension, it is not that thick and even if it chipped off it doesn't have enough mass to damage the turbine wheel. Cabon from the combustion is chamber could potentially be more dangerous.
Mar 21, 2005, 07:09 PM
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Swain technology http://www.swaintech.com/autolc.html white lighting coating is better then the jet hot stuff. I have it on my Turbo SE-R exh manifold and there is a big difference in under the hood temperature.
Mar 22, 2005, 09:37 AM
#45
... I believe that it wont do MUCH damage. but really, what I'm saying is it worth the risk of ANY damage? My prof. was no help.. I'd still love to be pointed in the direction of some proof. (btw: I feel my under hood temps are adiquate, seeing as I have a gaping hole in the hood )
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