412 tq (stock turbo) on 93 pump gas with Dyno Flash and Alcohol kit
Mar 25, 2005, 05:49 AM
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Originally Posted by EVO8LTW
You'd rather have rumpity 280 cam idle characteristics, a $2400 ECU that will require constant attention, less total area under the curve and a laggier car? BTW, who cares about money saves on the stock airbox when the car has an AEM EMS!
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Mar 25, 2005, 06:17 AM
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Methanol Inj.
Methanol injection is a Good. It's been around for years (OLD News) actually since the 1930s. Yes my ride made nice #s on race gas. I can add methanol injection and run nice #s too if I so desire. It will run well either way. 
Mar 25, 2005, 06:39 AM
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Originally Posted by EVO8LTW
You'd rather have rumpity 280 cam idle characteristics, a $2400 ECU that will require constant attention, less total area under the curve and a laggier car? BTW, who cares about money saves on the stock airbox when the car has an AEM EMS!
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Mar 25, 2005, 07:07 AM
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Originally Posted by Evo_doer
Why does a Aem need constant attention, explain? I haven't even scratched the surface with my combo yet.
tuners had not quite mastered the tune and therefore had it's issues.Now there are quite a few Tuners out there that have a very good handle on the AEM/Evo combo with all the different aftermarket bolt on's and are making good #'s with a safe reliable tune.Only time will tell how well they have it mastered and we will have to wait and see.
Mar 25, 2005, 10:39 AM
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Mikes car made what it made with stock intercooler, stock piping , stock air box ect. His car idles like it has no cams. Let me assure you that to make 420ft lbs of torque on a stock turbo , would prob require 33lbs of boost which is beyond dangerous. If you look at that dyno sheet, at that torque level his afr is in the 13's... guess time will tell as turbodan says .. 
... I'm going on record as saying that no stock turbo on an evo will make that torque on less then 30lbs of boost ... WONT HAPPEN... Keep in mind this is all on pump ...gas
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... I'm going on record as saying that no stock turbo on an evo will make that torque on less then 30lbs of boost ... WONT HAPPEN... Keep in mind this is all on pump ...gas Mark
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Mar 25, 2005, 10:55 AM
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Originally Posted by DynoFlash
I am not saying that the TT tune is bad - in fact is good. I am just refuting your simplistic staement - he made more power. In fact - even though the meak # was sligtly higher at spool up there is more tq on my customer's car and more power and tq at 7,000 rpms also. - A more broad and even power band equals a faster car.
Al: better lay off the
Mar 25, 2005, 11:01 AM
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Originally Posted by Sean I
Evodoer I agree with you there, only an improperly setup EMS would need constant attention. Nice car and nice #s for the mods.
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His butt dyno seems to be way off 
Mar 25, 2005, 12:36 PM
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It's not too hard to read the entire post that has been put here before responding to it.
Al stated on page two that the car was AT 30 PSI of boost. Also the car was tuned on PUMP GAS and ALCOHOL.
Nice job on the tune Al, chart is crazy.
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Al stated on page two that the car was AT 30 PSI of boost. Also the car was tuned on PUMP GAS and ALCOHOL.
Nice job on the tune Al, chart is crazy.
David Buschur
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Mar 25, 2005, 01:15 PM
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Originally Posted by davidbuschur
It's not too hard to read the entire post that has been put here before responding to it.
Al stated on page two that the car was AT 30 PSI of boost. Also the car was tuned on PUMP GAS and ALCOHOL.
Nice job on the tune Al, chart is crazy.
David Buschur
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Al stated on page two that the car was AT 30 PSI of boost. Also the car was tuned on PUMP GAS and ALCOHOL.
Nice job on the tune Al, chart is crazy.
David Buschur
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Mar 25, 2005, 02:27 PM
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Mr.Dynoflash or Mr Busher:
For sh^ts and giggles If a Methanol kit was bolted on to the evodoers pump tune, where would the #s be? I would assume higher than the race gas #s? Enlighten us please. Thanks
For sh^ts and giggles If a Methanol kit was bolted on to the evodoers pump tune, where would the #s be? I would assume higher than the race gas #s? Enlighten us please. Thanks
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Originally Posted by cHuCkUfArLiE
Mr.Dynoflash or Mr Busher:
For sh^ts and giggles If a Methanol kit was bolted on to the evodoers pump tune, where would the #s be? I would assume higher than the race gas #s? Enlighten us please. Thanks
For sh^ts and giggles If a Methanol kit was bolted on to the evodoers pump tune, where would the #s be? I would assume higher than the race gas #s? Enlighten us please. Thanks
To your point, evo doer was running less boost with race gas then this guy was with pump / alcohol. 30psi is a magic number with this car ,,, al is alot braver then me.. I didnt want to give mike a huge bill with a broken motor.
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Mar 25, 2005, 03:16 PM
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Originally Posted by TurbotrixRacing
To your point, evo doer was running less boost with race gas then this guy was with pump / alcohol. 30psi is a magic number with this car ,,, al is alot braver then me.. I didnt want to give mike a huge bill with a broken motor.
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Could someone tell me what a 20G wheel would do in the aforementioned setup?