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Originally Posted by sleet
Do you need any gears for the 280s or anything? Or just run them like you'd run the 272s?
-2/-2 is popular for peak power
-3/-3 some have used with luck
I use some high rpm powerband settings personally.
Stock 0/0 is good all around though.
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I was wondering about the settings you have here, can you set these different variations with the stock gears with 272's. the reasong why i am asking is, I have a local dsm mechanic that will install my cams in a couple days. i have been reading about all the different ways to set the timing like you have below (-2/-2,-3/-3,-4/-1...etc.) i asked him how he was going to set mine and he said he just going to leave it stock. I have little knowledge about these cam settings, so if someone could enlighten me, i would greatly appreciate it. Do you have to have cam gears to get variable timing? Does he know what he's doing? A little help please.
Originally Posted by TTP Engineering
0/0 setting is fine
-2/-2 is popular for peak power
-3/-3 some have used with luck
I use some high rpm powerband settings personally.
Stock 0/0 is good all around though.
-2/-2 is popular for peak power
-3/-3 some have used with luck
I use some high rpm powerband settings personally.
Stock 0/0 is good all around though.
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Originally Posted by lancealot72
I was wondering about the settings you have here, can you set these different variations with the stock gears with 272's. the reasong why i am asking is, I have a local dsm mechanic that will install my cams in a couple days. i have been reading about all the different ways to set the timing like you have below (-2/-2,-3/-3,-4/-1...etc.) i asked him how he was going to set mine and he said he just going to leave it stock. I have little knowledge about these cam settings, so if someone could enlighten me, i would greatly appreciate it. Do you have to have cam gears to get variable timing? Does he know what he's doing? A little help please.
#35
O.K. you answered my main question, i wasnt sure about the stock gears if they were adjustable or not. I assumed they were not, but like i said, i dont know much about internals and timing. Thanks!!! I guess i just got caught up in reading a thread about different settings and assumed that everyone replying couldnt have adjustible cam gears.
Anyways, it was the whole "ASS_U_ME" scenario that i did!
Thanks for the info again!!
Anyways, it was the whole "ASS_U_ME" scenario that i did!
Thanks for the info again!!
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Does anyone know how the idle and power will be without adjustible cam gears and EMS. I plan on getting a flash shortly after? Thanks in advance for any info or help!!
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Originally Posted by Ted B
My 280s are timed such that they give much more low speed torque than my 272s ever did.
2. What type of gas is required to run those settings?
3. Did you ever try those settings w/ the 272's to compare or are you comparing a different setup on the 272s.
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Originally Posted by lancealot72
Does anyone know how the idle and power will be without adjustible cam gears and EMS. I plan on getting a flash shortly after?
Originally Posted by 954DRGSR
Inquiring minds want to know how you set your cam gears so they can duplicate. Also what type of gas is required to run those settings?
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Originally Posted by 954DRGSR
3. Did you ever try those settings w/ the 272's to compare or are you comparing a different setup on the 272s.
This setting creates lots of low and midrange cylinder pressure, which makes for a big torque curve, but also increases the chances of detonation. When I had 272s, they were set a -3/-3. I have no inclination to go back to that setting or other retarded setting.
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Originally Posted by TTP Engineering
0/0 setting is fine
-2/-2 is popular for peak power
-3/-3 some have used with luck
I use some high rpm powerband settings personally.
Stock 0/0 is good all around though.
-2/-2 is popular for peak power
-3/-3 some have used with luck
I use some high rpm powerband settings personally.
Stock 0/0 is good all around though.
I'm glad I'm reading this cuz I'm looking at getting 280's formy 05 EVO..
In your opinion, where does peak power begin? 5K RPM's?
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Originally Posted by Ted B
The same strategy will apply similarly to the 272s.
This setting creates lots of low and midrange cylinder pressure, which makes for a big torque curve, but also increases the chances of detonation. When I had 272s, they were set a -3/-3. I have no inclination to go back to that setting or other retarded setting.
This setting creates lots of low and midrange cylinder pressure, which makes for a big torque curve, but also increases the chances of detonation. When I had 272s, they were set a -3/-3. I have no inclination to go back to that setting or other retarded setting.
To be clearer I was asking specifically if you ran the the 272s at the +2,0 settings to compare.
More jump off the line would be appreciated so I may try these settings on my 272's at the next dynoday at Dyno4mance.
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Originally Posted by nickracer9
yeah the 280's will never idle like stock. if you haven't heard them they sound like an R1 at idle and shake the car a little. you can fatten up the afr's and that helps but not worth it. lost some power down low and might have picked some up up top. i did have to add a little fuel from 4500-7500. still working them out, but i still prefer my old 264/272 combo. oh yeah the exhaust emissions are pretty bad, i always smell like my exhaust after driving it. nick.
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Has anybody tried installing a 272 intake/ 280 exhaust? Will this work better than a 272/272 set-up?.
HKS272/272, hks race suction system, 3" fujitsubo exhaust, 3"greddy downpipes,HKSSQQ BOV, DNP stainless steel manifold, turbonetics t3/t4, turbonetics Evolution wastegate, MBC, motec M48, Spearco water injection, 11.720 ET 118mph 0-60- 1.524sec.
HKS272/272, hks race suction system, 3" fujitsubo exhaust, 3"greddy downpipes,HKSSQQ BOV, DNP stainless steel manifold, turbonetics t3/t4, turbonetics Evolution wastegate, MBC, motec M48, Spearco water injection, 11.720 ET 118mph 0-60- 1.524sec.
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Originally Posted by sleet
What are people using to tune the 280s? Would they run ok on a ECU flash or Utec?
Here is a nice example of a flash + 280's on factory ECU working in harmony...