View Poll Results: Which kit to go with?
AMS GT35R
145
65.32%
Buschur ball bearing GT35R
77
34.68%
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AMS GT35R or Buschur's Ball Bearing GT35R???
Jun 25, 2005, 11:02 PM
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AMS GT35R or Buschur's Ball Bearing GT35R???
I was looking at buschur's site just for the heck of it when I happened to see that his BB GT35R retails at $3300. I thought, no a bad deal considering AMS's is like $4400+
anyhow, which one of these two would you guys prefer? Discuss
For me I would lean towards buschur cause of price, and because its a BB turbo...that works..
anyhow, which one of these two would you guys prefer? Discuss
For me I would lean towards buschur cause of price, and because its a BB turbo...that works..
Jun 25, 2005, 11:05 PM
#5
ams is very pruven at this point its cost and what u want ams comes with a intake tube etc and a big equal length tubular manifold they claim to have none break yet but tubular manifolds crack trust me even the "best" ones... i have proof of that and the bushur comes with a nice pruven cast one... definitly the way i will b going
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Jun 25, 2005, 11:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Blue Evo 8
I was looking at buschur's site just for the heck of it when I happened to see that his BB GT35R retails at $3300. I thought, no a bad deal considering AMS's is like $4400+
anyhow, which one of these two would you guys prefer? Discuss
For me I would lean towards buschur cause of price, and because its a BB turbo...that works..
anyhow, which one of these two would you guys prefer? Discuss
For me I would lean towards buschur cause of price, and because its a BB turbo...that works..
maybe the mods will do it for you
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Jun 26, 2005, 09:17 AM
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For a turbo like a GT35R that comes alive higher in the rev range, a manifold with long primary runners to equalize the exhaust pressure will be more efficient in that high rev range than a cast log style manifold. Granted, the tube header will require more of an eye when it comes to maintenance, but I think that's outweighed by the gains you will see on the top end.
Jun 26, 2005, 09:24 AM
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Originally Posted by 4G63>OOOO
For a turbo like a GT35R that comes alive higher in the rev range, a manifold with long primary runners to equalize the exhaust pressure will be more efficient in that high rev range than a cast log style manifold. Granted, the tube header will require more of an eye when it comes to maintenance, but I think that's outweighed by the gains you will see on the top end.
BR is a good choice if your on a budget but if youre spending $3300, you should be able to do do $4400
in the end cant go wrong with either though!
Jun 26, 2005, 04:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Soon2BEVO
he said it!
BR is a good choice if your on a budget but if youre spending $3300, you should be able to do do $4400
in the end cant go wrong with either though!
BR is a good choice if your on a budget but if youre spending $3300, you should be able to do do $4400
in the end cant go wrong with either though!
But I'm a cheap guy that likes to buy cheap parts that work reliably....
Jun 26, 2005, 04:44 PM
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Sure there is a big difference in price but look at what you get in the AMS kit and then the Buschur kit. The AMS kit for example comes with a equal length manifold compared to a log manifold that Buschur has. Also the AMS kit comes with a new Downpipe and a Air Intake pipe which the Buschur kit does not.
All in all I think they are both great kits but the AMS kit is better becasue it comes with everything you need and it has been proven already. Im sure the Buschur kit is very nice as wel but it just needs time for people to use it and what not. It seems like the Buschur kit should be bought after stage 4 because then the turbo will bolt right up with everything they supplied.
All in all I think they are both great kits but the AMS kit is better becasue it comes with everything you need and it has been proven already. Im sure the Buschur kit is very nice as wel but it just needs time for people to use it and what not. It seems like the Buschur kit should be bought after stage 4 because then the turbo will bolt right up with everything they supplied.
Jun 26, 2005, 06:42 PM
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There is also a big differance in turbine housings:
AMS's kit uses a T3 style turbine housing that has choice of A/R ratio and no provisions for wastegate in the turbine housing.
BR's kit would use the Precision "DSM bolt in" turbine housing that is only available in one A/R ratio that is ~.6. This turbine housing and BR's turbokit manifold also would have the wastegate on the o2 housing.
Im using the GT3582RLE ball bearing turbo on my 90 talon with a 8.5CR 2.0L engine, is certainly not "high 3k" in spoolup. It won't hit 32psi untill 4200rpm in 4th gear, 4700rpm in 2nd gear (as per AEM EMS logs). My turbine housing needed extensive porting to not boost creep past 35psi.
I am up in the air as for power gain directly from the manifold. I have never seen a direct comparason of a stock/log/cast exhaust manifold to a tubular header style manifold without changing the turbine housing. IMHO many people see huge gains when they change over to a tube header, but some of those gains are from a different A/R on the turbine housing or a completely different turbine housing design all together.
AMS's kit uses a T3 style turbine housing that has choice of A/R ratio and no provisions for wastegate in the turbine housing.
BR's kit would use the Precision "DSM bolt in" turbine housing that is only available in one A/R ratio that is ~.6. This turbine housing and BR's turbokit manifold also would have the wastegate on the o2 housing.
Im using the GT3582RLE ball bearing turbo on my 90 talon with a 8.5CR 2.0L engine, is certainly not "high 3k" in spoolup. It won't hit 32psi untill 4200rpm in 4th gear, 4700rpm in 2nd gear (as per AEM EMS logs). My turbine housing needed extensive porting to not boost creep past 35psi.
I am up in the air as for power gain directly from the manifold. I have never seen a direct comparason of a stock/log/cast exhaust manifold to a tubular header style manifold without changing the turbine housing. IMHO many people see huge gains when they change over to a tube header, but some of those gains are from a different A/R on the turbine housing or a completely different turbine housing design all together.