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Old Jul 3, 2005, 03:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Whoosh
I sure would like to know what dyno would produce 500hp on 91 octane pump gas. You do know that we are talking about the 4G63 don't you? Can you tell me what boost level that was at?
stfu tuning pulled the numbers from his ems... he has a lot done to the car tho, think boost was around 21psi.

Originally Posted by gsujeff55
what in the hell are you talking about? your TOONER gave you too much crack

and 330-340whp is a long way away from 400, you do realize that bunny is a td05 turbo right?

i mean i think its a great turbo, and i might buy it, but you bandwagon folks make me laugh.

like when someone says my car made 400hp on c16....and some other noob is like "not without alky it didn't" LOL

BANDWAGON

again, im in no way bashing the WR, i think its a great turbo and great innovation. just some people get on my nerves with this crap

i'd love to know who the **** yer talkin' to cuz in that quote i'm talkin' about the gt35. the tuner comment was about how you don't need to go and overkill the hp goal by JUMPING ON THE BANDWAGON AND RECOMMENDING A GT35 LIKE EVERYONE ELSE DOES.

and how far is 380 from 400... minus cams? are you gonna tell me cams give you less than 20hp? shall i tell you to go check yer tuner too? or are we gonna get into a dyno pissing match? cuz honestly... dynos are the bane of my existence... i don't need to prove my car is fast...

what about the wr being a td05?... i don't see your point? even without a new wheel people are making good power... even on 91 octane california gas. what about it being a td05? you don't like torque?

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Old Jul 3, 2005, 04:25 PM
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who said anything about YOUR car?

and i quoted you and spoke about it, then i went on to what others were saying....i didn't mean to make it look like you said all that. you said a gt35r can make 500whp on pump gas....im here to tell you that it cannot. where did you get 380 from?

i don't want a dyno pissing match, just want noobs to quiet down.
Old Jul 3, 2005, 04:34 PM
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i'm not tryina say anything about my car... that's just my philosophy... don't needa prove it's fast... just should be fast in it.

373 is what the dyno charts in the wr thread say... where did you get your numbers from? is the mininum of 393 not close enough to 400?

if you say the gt35r can't... then fine... but it's certainly capable of WAY more than JUST 400 hp on pump... at least if you have the right stuff. WAY more being the 40-60 hp difference between 340-360 and 400 right? in that case... gt35r isn't the best option for this goal... cuz you can make 400 on pump with a 3076 or 3037.

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i dont see why you couldn't make your goal with the 60trim. We have used that on many DMS's and made more than that. Try that turbo and see what you can make it do. Try it for yourself and see what happens. the good thing is that your turbo is a T3 housing based turbo so you have alot of options as to what you can replace it with. Hell with minor modification, if any you could bolt on a GT3071 or 3076 with a different line kit.

best of luck to you bro.
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Originally Posted by gsujeff55
you said a gt35r can make 500whp on pump gas....im here to tell you that it cannot.
well said.
Old Jul 3, 2005, 08:36 PM
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please let's not make this another soap opera thread......

the WR ain't gonna come close on 91

the GT35 can and will make over 400 whp on 91 at streetable boost levels. It has been done before

and PLEASE let's not turm this into a 350Z site comparing dynos from one part of the country to another and wondering where all the "power" is

my advice is this: get a good feel for what Evo's using your intended dyno have put down, and start taking notes. I think what you'll find in the course of this is that they will likely be running similar setups

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Originally Posted by gsujeff55
who said anything about YOUR car?

and i quoted you and spoke about it, then i went on to what others were saying....i didn't mean to make it look like you said all that. you said a gt35r can make 500whp on pump gas....im here to tell you that it cannot. where did you get 380 from?

i don't want a dyno pissing match, just want noobs to quiet down.
I believe it can make 500 whp with a 2.4 and a gt35R, not a 35r alone. I made 500whp(not an aggresive tune) with a gt35r on a 2l using 100. I agree its not going to happen on a 2l.
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Originally Posted by spoolingEVOx
i plan to follow the white rabbit..
Plus one for the white Rabbit.
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Originally Posted by trinydex
i'm not tryina say anything about my car... that's just my philosophy... don't needa prove it's fast... just should be fast in it.

373 is what the dyno charts in the wr thread say... where did you get your numbers from? is the mininum of 393 not close enough to 400?

if you say the gt35r can't... then fine... but it's certainly capable of WAY more than JUST 400 hp on pump... at least if you have the right stuff. WAY more being the 40-60 hp difference between 340-360 and 400 right? in that case... gt35r isn't the best option for this goal... cuz you can make 400 on pump with a 3076 or 3037.
exactly right, i never said one time that he should get a 35r.
Old Jul 3, 2005, 09:10 PM
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Originally Posted by inariv5573
What are you talking about hype? I think 400whp is very attainable with the white rabbit, with supporting mods of course. There are people making 330-340whp on stock turbo. Sleet's car is making 315whp with HKS intake, 3"TBE, MBC at 21psi, Walbro FP,and a TT flash. He doesn't even have cams...yet.
91 octane and the wr=400whp? Please tell me what your secret sauce is.

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uhm... gt35r will make more than 500 hp on pump... your tuner sucks or you just don't know how to use that wide band phillip...
Again, 91 octane, what's the secret oh mighty all-knowing. Not to mention a stock 2.0 liter. I know how to use my wideband, you just don't know how to read.
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Originally Posted by DCSilvrEvo
Plus one for the white Rabbit.
Another plus for the bunny here.
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phillip has it right...on 91, I don't see a GT35 even being able to kiss the north side of 450 whp w/o alcohol- even with all the supporting mods in the world.

and again, on 91 octane, I don't see the white rabbit being able to to touch 400 whp either....again, unless alcohol is involved
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Originally Posted by onesicklambo
im trying to find out what kind of numbers i will have..because right now my car is in the shop getting tuned/dynoed. Yes warrtalon..i have been trying to say 1/4 mile(quarter mile) this whole time, sorry if there was any confussion. as i do most of my driving(racing) from stop light to stoplight and just 1/4 mile runs, i want it to be the fastest i can get it. I am going to run race fuel..and i know i can reach 400whp easy, but the whole point was trying to obtain this bench mark on regular everyday gas/driving. ya TURBOTSIAWD i could get alky..but then i have to refill..worry aobut running out, and i dont think that would fall into the category of what i want it to be a "daily" driver..(i.e my example of streeetable daily driver is; go to the pump, fill up make your max hp...not worry aobut if the alky is hookedup/filled...what the mixture of my 91/100 octane is...switching maps..etc etc)
I have the same turbo kit with the 50 trim, I'd rather road race. And the last time I dyno'd it (two weeks ago) it was 368HP on crappy 91. So yes, you should be able to get to the 400 mark with the 60 trim.
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You should be able to do it with the turbo you have. What backside are you running? IO am guessing a .63 with a stage 5 turbine. That should be enough to get you your goal. You don't need a gt turbo to make 400whp on pump gas.
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I believe it can make 500 whp with a 2.4 and a gt35R, not a 35r alone. I made 500whp(not an aggresive tune) with a gt35r on a 2l using 100. I agree its not going to happen on a 2l.
Why not on a 2L. So there's no Evo making close to 500whp on a 2L and pump gas??? If not that's pretty sad because Dre was pulling 503whp (93 oct, on his old 2L) with his DSM years ago... on a 50trim no less.

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