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Old Oct 13, 2005, 08:33 AM
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Originally Posted by MalibuJack
I think it depends on the runner size.. many of the headers I've seen have huge runners which lowers exhaust velocity..

I tend to agree with Dave though about losing some torque if you have large tube headers, especially if their not "tuned" appropriately for the turbo size (which most aren't)
do you think you lost much torque with your JIC header?
Old Oct 13, 2005, 12:03 PM
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Originally Posted by dr_speed
Will a stroker kit help with the surge issue? or make it worse?
The surge situation should be less on a stroker, or with any change in configuration that enables the engine to be more efficient in lower rpm ranges.
Old Oct 14, 2005, 09:30 AM
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I don't know if the stroker will hurt or help with the surge. We are working on a possible solution for the surge issues. I haven't compared a 2.0 to a 2.25 liter of ours with the 20G on them both.

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Old Oct 14, 2005, 09:47 AM
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The stroker should alleviate the surge somewhat, as would any adjustment that improves VE in lower rpm ranges.
Old Oct 17, 2005, 05:41 AM
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I believe the surge will be about the same with the stroker. The stroker is going to make the turbo spool even sooner, so the change in the engine displacement will be offset by an even quicker spooling turbo.

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Old Oct 17, 2005, 06:22 AM
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Old Oct 17, 2005, 08:57 PM
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Ok, here are my numbers 330hp and 300 ft/lbs. of torque on 91 octane. This was done at dynocomp in Phx. AZ on a dyno dynamics awd dyno. I will be going a different route, I will be calling you David for the GT35 kit you sell.
Old Oct 17, 2005, 09:09 PM
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What does a stock evo put down on that dyno? Also what other mods do you have?

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Stock is 180-190 on their dyno! I have 272's, Gears, 1000cc AMS Injectors, EcuTek and 3 1/2 TBE.
Old Oct 17, 2005, 09:22 PM
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So there dyno dynamics reads similar to Buschur's MD. Those are some very nice numbers then indeed.
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on 91octane to boot. . . hehe sell me your used 20g
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8URVTEC,

But how does it feel?
Old Oct 18, 2005, 04:34 AM
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Wow, if a stock EVO on that dyno makes 180-190 then you are making some huge numbers on 91 octane. The car has to be fast as hell.

My car at 330 whp on our dyno ran traps speeds of 120 mph and 11.30 times. Our dyno measures stock EVO's in the 200-215 range.

As a side note. I was not able to get the boost high in my car for a long time. I have made posts about this and comments. Couldn't find the problem. I used a 2003 turbo for my core, very quick job, no rebuild no nothing. Just put a turbo together for this 20G testing. This turbo has gone 124 mph with 22-23 psi of boost. That was as high as it would go even with the hose pulled off the actuator. This past week we pulled the turbo off and I put on the TME 20G, holy ****. The boost was nuts, 41 psi the boost hit on the EMS datalogger. I sent the other turbo out to have checked, it was obviously not up to par for one reason or another.

I will be taking the car back to the track now that I have the boost problem fixed. I fully expect this 20G to trap in very close to 130 mph on race gas now.

Still working on a new design that will hopefully eliminate the surging issues that the current 20G can have.

Good things just keep coming our of here. This is, in my opinion, the ultimate daily driver turbo. I don't like lag though

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Originally Posted by davidbuschur
Wow, if a stock EVO on that dyno makes 180-190 then you are making some huge numbers on 91 octane. The car has to be fast as hell.

My car at 330 whp on our dyno ran traps speeds of 120 mph and 11.30 times. Our dyno measures stock EVO's in the 200-215 range.

As a side note. I was not able to get the boost high in my car for a long time. I have made posts about this and comments. Couldn't find the problem. I used a 2003 turbo for my core, very quick job, no rebuild no nothing. Just put a turbo together for this 20G testing. This turbo has gone 124 mph with 22-23 psi of boost. That was as high as it would go even with the hose pulled off the actuator. This past week we pulled the turbo off and I put on the TME 20G, holy ****. The boost was nuts, 41 psi the boost hit on the EMS datalogger. I sent the other turbo out to have checked, it was obviously not up to par for one reason or another.

I will be taking the car back to the track now that I have the boost problem fixed. I fully expect this 20G to trap in very close to 130 mph on race gas now.

Still working on a new design that will hopefully eliminate the surging issues that the current 20G can have.

Good things just keep coming our of here. This is, in my opinion, the ultimate daily driver turbo. I don't like lag though

David Buschur
www.buschurracing.com

Hey David , would you dyno your RS again with the new tme 20G .
How is the spool vs the non tme turbo ?
thanks
Old Oct 18, 2005, 07:20 AM
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Mine didn't seem to have any problems hitting 30psi once I put in the red spring from Forge. I will be looking to get AMS' alchy kit and then have them tune it so that I can run that boost on a daily basis.


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