20G turbo upgrade from Buschur Racing.
Jan 7, 2006, 12:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Smogrunner
To give perspective, A stock '03 evo makes about 230whp on a dynojet 424x
230 + 140= 370whp
Dave,
That is what many many of us make all over the country. And tons of us go out and run 113 to 115 mph at the track with those kind of numbers. Now, with your top notch drivers and bit of extra weight removal, there is no way you should do better than 117mph.
Your numbers simply don't add up.
230 + 140= 370whp
Dave,
That is what many many of us make all over the country. And tons of us go out and run 113 to 115 mph at the track with those kind of numbers. Now, with your top notch drivers and bit of extra weight removal, there is no way you should do better than 117mph.
Your numbers simply don't add up.
Jan 7, 2006, 12:44 PM
#677
Originally Posted by ct9a gsr
Just for reference, my Evo's rated at 389whp (19whp more than your 370whp #) and I run 118mph w/ absolutely no weight reduction + spare + tools in the trunk.
Jan 7, 2006, 01:42 PM
#678
Originally Posted by Smogrunner
I have a hard time with the math on this achievement.
Stock on your dyno = 213
Stock MPH in 1/4 = about 104
328 whp = 115 whp over stock
Your MPH = 124
So, you are honestly claiming that you gained 20mph in the quarter with just 115 more horsepower.
even when adding 22% to compare to a dynojet you make 140whp over stock.
To give perspective, A stock '03 evo using STD correction, makes about 230whp on a dynojet 424x
230 + 140= 370whp
Dave,
That is what many many of us make all over the country. And tons of us go out and run 113 to 115 mph at the track with those kind of numbers. Now, with your top notch drivers and bit of extra weight removal, there is no way you should do better than 117mph.
Your numbers simply don't add up.
Finally, I know that you (and others) are going to feel the need to personally insult me. But please, please, answer my question when you are finished.
Stock on your dyno = 213
Stock MPH in 1/4 = about 104
328 whp = 115 whp over stock
Your MPH = 124
So, you are honestly claiming that you gained 20mph in the quarter with just 115 more horsepower.
even when adding 22% to compare to a dynojet you make 140whp over stock.
To give perspective, A stock '03 evo using STD correction, makes about 230whp on a dynojet 424x
230 + 140= 370whp
Dave,
That is what many many of us make all over the country. And tons of us go out and run 113 to 115 mph at the track with those kind of numbers. Now, with your top notch drivers and bit of extra weight removal, there is no way you should do better than 117mph.
Your numbers simply don't add up.
Finally, I know that you (and others) are going to feel the need to personally insult me. But please, please, answer my question when you are finished.
On David's dyno I put down 275whp wich is only about 70whp more than stock 03 evo's put down on his dyno, and I ran 11.8@116
70whp = 12-13mph gain over stock
David put down 340whp the same dyno @ ran a 124 trap.. Thats 135whp more than the 03's put down stock on "HIS" dyno.
135whp=20-21mph gain over stock
How does that not make since?? You can say his dyno may read low. But you cant say 124mph traps are not possible with 340whp on his dyno.
Jan 7, 2006, 01:52 PM
#679
Originally Posted by LIFER
David put down 340whp the same dyno @ ran a 124 trap.. Thats 135whp more than the 03's put down stock on "HIS" dyno.
How does that not make since?? You can say his dyno may read low. But you cant say 124mph traps are not possible with 340whp on his dyno.
How does that not make since?? You can say his dyno may read low. But you cant say 124mph traps are not possible with 340whp on his dyno.
Lets just get on the same page.
Last edited by Smogrunner; Jan 7, 2006 at 01:57 PM.
Jan 7, 2006, 01:55 PM
#680
Originally Posted by Smogrunner
For starters, where are you getting the 340whp figure from? I directly quoted who states that he did 124mph on 328whp.
Lets just get on the same page.
Lets just get on the same page.
O so the extra 16whp I typed by mistake, means it never could happen?
Its still 120whp more than a stock 03 puts down on his dyno..
and I traped 14mph faster than a stock 03 with only 70whp more
whats the point of having a "truth squad" when they can't see the truth when it's in there face
Jan 7, 2006, 02:09 PM
#682
Ok,
Using David Buschurs own calculations of 22% variation between his dyno and the all wheel drive dynojet of Tym Switzer's:
275whp + 22% = 335.5whp.
OK, I think I might be on to something here. If you are doing 11.8 at 116 on 335whp the track you race at is not accurate -OR- you have removed around 400 to 500lbs from your car.
I can post up hordes of guys with average evos making 330 to 340 whp on dynojets who go out to the track and NEVER get passed 112mph.
Using David Buschurs own calculations of 22% variation between his dyno and the all wheel drive dynojet of Tym Switzer's:
275whp + 22% = 335.5whp.
OK, I think I might be on to something here. If you are doing 11.8 at 116 on 335whp the track you race at is not accurate -OR- you have removed around 400 to 500lbs from your car.
I can post up hordes of guys with average evos making 330 to 340 whp on dynojets who go out to the track and NEVER get passed 112mph.
Jan 7, 2006, 02:15 PM
#683
Originally Posted by Smogrunner
Ok,
Using David Buschurs own calculations of 22% variation between his dyno and the all wheel drive dynojet of Tym Switzer's:
275whp + 22% = 335.5whp.
OK, I think I might be on to something here. If you are doing 11.8 at 116 on 335whp the track you race at is not accurate -OR- you have removed around 400 to 500lbs from your car.
I can post up hordes of guys with average evos making 330 to 340 whp on dynojets who go out to the track and NEVER get passed 112mph.
Using David Buschurs own calculations of 22% variation between his dyno and the all wheel drive dynojet of Tym Switzer's:
275whp + 22% = 335.5whp.
OK, I think I might be on to something here. If you are doing 11.8 at 116 on 335whp the track you race at is not accurate -OR- you have removed around 400 to 500lbs from your car.
I can post up hordes of guys with average evos making 330 to 340 whp on dynojets who go out to the track and NEVER get passed 112mph.
Your math is wrong. It should be 275/0.78 = 352.6 hp.
Jan 7, 2006, 02:15 PM
#684
Originally Posted by Smogrunner
Ok,
Using David Buschurs own calculations of 22% variation between his dyno and the all wheel drive dynojet of Tym Switzer's:
275whp + 22% = 335.5whp.
OK, I think I might be on to something here. If you are doing 11.8 at 116 on 335whp the track you race at is not accurate -OR- you have removed around 400 to 500lbs from your car.
I can post up hordes of guys with average evos making 330 to 340 whp on dynojets who go out to the track and NEVER get passed 112mph.
Using David Buschurs own calculations of 22% variation between his dyno and the all wheel drive dynojet of Tym Switzer's:
275whp + 22% = 335.5whp.
OK, I think I might be on to something here. If you are doing 11.8 at 116 on 335whp the track you race at is not accurate -OR- you have removed around 400 to 500lbs from your car.
I can post up hordes of guys with average evos making 330 to 340 whp on dynojets who go out to the track and NEVER get passed 112mph.
A normal mustang dyno reads 22% less than a dynojet... David's is more like 30% on avg.
Jan 7, 2006, 02:20 PM
#685
Also. do we know for a fact that a +10 HP gain on a Dynojet is equal to a +10 HP gain on DB's dyno? It would seem to me that each HP should be correspondingly adjusted, and that it doesn't follow a 1:1 ratio after baseline.
Last edited by mhgsx; Jan 7, 2006 at 02:22 PM.
Jan 7, 2006, 02:48 PM
#689
Originally Posted by LIFER
A normal mustang dyno reads 22% less than a dynojet... David's is more like 30% on avg.
Please read for yourself. David B himself rated his dyno to read 22% lower than Tym's dynojet. Furthermore, DB called it the "End All Comparison," implying that the results were definitive. You, on the other hand, are truly pulling this 30% number from thin air.
Jan 7, 2006, 02:52 PM
#690
Originally Posted by Smogrunner
I have a hard time with the math on this achievement.
Stock on your dyno = 213
Stock MPH in 1/4 = about 104
328 whp = 115 whp over stock
Your MPH = 124
So, you are honestly claiming that you gained 20mph in the quarter with just 115 more horsepower.
Stock on your dyno = 213
Stock MPH in 1/4 = about 104
328 whp = 115 whp over stock
Your MPH = 124
So, you are honestly claiming that you gained 20mph in the quarter with just 115 more horsepower.