Best bolt on gt30 kit ATP vs Vishnu vs Buschur
Aug 28, 2005, 02:12 AM
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well done, cant wait to have ur kit on my car, when i get it 
lol but i am still searching, ur other stages look good for the price so i will have to see, btw not sure if u mentiond this and im sum what lazy to re-read ur post since its 2 am and im tired but just wondering if all this can run on stock internals and such, can the clutches and transmission stock hold 600awhp? if not what would be the best alternative to make the car run more smoother and last longer with this kit, thanx again for the info- Josh
Aug 28, 2005, 02:21 AM
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Stock internals and 600 whp, could happen but it is going to be at high risk. As for as transmission etc. no problem. The stock clutch is not going to hold up to 600 whp.
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Aug 28, 2005, 02:32 AM
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Originally Posted by davidbuschur
On our old dyno (2WD DYnojet) we made 622 whp on a 2.2 liter GT35R car at 30 psi. With a 2.0 liter GT35R car it took us 35 psi to make 633 whp. Exact same set ups other than the stroker vs 2.0.
On our new Mustang Dyno the numbers are MUCH lower. That same GT35R 2 liter car now has a stroker engine in it and is much faster than it was (seat of the pants). It now makes only 535 whp on our new dyno.
Aug 28, 2005, 02:36 AM
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WOW david I am very excited about this kit. Why do you say that there is no major difference between the GT3076R and a GT35R? Is the spool THAT much slower?
Also What size injecors would you reccomend for a GT3071R... Thanks.
Also wouldn't a GT3076R be a better pump gas turbo as far as making more WHP on pump gas?
PM me on some pricing, I plan to get it on the car soon and get some dyno sheets
Also What size injecors would you reccomend for a GT3071R... Thanks.
Also wouldn't a GT3076R be a better pump gas turbo as far as making more WHP on pump gas?
PM me on some pricing, I plan to get it on the car soon and get some dyno sheets
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Aug 28, 2005, 09:36 AM
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Originally Posted by Supernaut
Also wouldn't a GT3076R be a better pump gas turbo as far as making more WHP on pump gas?
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Aug 28, 2005, 10:10 AM
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I thought the largest 30 series garret turbo is the 3040r ... I could be wrong. Dave what numbers do you see on the gt35 on pump gas? What is the spool like?
Aug 28, 2005, 10:11 AM
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Originally Posted by Supernaut
WOW david I am very excited about this kit. Why do you say that there is no major difference between the GT3076R and a GT35R? Is the spool THAT much slower?
Also What size injecors would you reccomend for a GT3071R... Thanks.
Also wouldn't a GT3076R be a better pump gas turbo as far as making more WHP on pump gas?
PM me on some pricing, I plan to get it on the car soon and get some dyno sheets
Also What size injecors would you reccomend for a GT3071R... Thanks.
Also wouldn't a GT3076R be a better pump gas turbo as far as making more WHP on pump gas?
PM me on some pricing, I plan to get it on the car soon and get some dyno sheets
I beg to differ on the spool part. This is a VW 1.8T w/ said GT3076 and GT35R. Spool diff is there...
Top is 35R on C16, 3.6bar
Next down is GT30R on C16, 3.2bar (wouldn't hold that boost above 6500)
GT30R on 100 unleaded, 2.8Bar
GT30R on 93, 1.8bar
Aug 28, 2005, 10:23 AM
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Originally Posted by Ludikraut
A GT3076R will not make significantly more power than a 3071 on pump gas ... you're talking _maybe_ another 20whp and for that you're going to lose quite a bit of spoolup vs a GT3071R. I completely agree with DB that it's either 3071 or GT35r, the 3076 isn't worth the compromise.
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I disagree w/ Buschur regarding the GT3076. I have a GT3076 and I get 23 psi at 4316rpm. Looking at the GT35R spool up thread, Fourdoor (using a Buschur GT35R kit) gets 24psi at 5000rpm. 700rpm is a big difference. On the other hand, a local guy here has a AMS GT3071 kit and he told me he gets 23psi at 4000rpm.
I think I could get my spool up even better if I adjusted my cam gears from -3,-3.
Aug 28, 2005, 12:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Supernaut
Tuning, that simple. Timing and fuel control is KING, it'll make or break any kit
Are you kidding??? That's all they do, even the Turbo Trixx Turbo kit, they also get your evo into the 11's easilly and trap at 122+++ on PUMP GAS.
ANgry are we? ask Buschur/Turbo Trixx/DynoFLash ETC that these Proper Garrett turbos EASILLY make 420WHP on pump. Hell even that RNR 50 trim does so on pump gas, come on man you can't argue with that
Are you kidding??? That's all they do, even the Turbo Trixx Turbo kit, they also get your evo into the 11's easilly and trap at 122+++ on PUMP GAS.
ANgry are we? ask Buschur/Turbo Trixx/DynoFLash ETC that these Proper Garrett turbos EASILLY make 420WHP on pump. Hell even that RNR 50 trim does so on pump gas, come on man you can't argue with that
Your lack of knowledge and experience shines brightly, move on to another thread buddy
Aug 28, 2005, 12:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Jaylenospoolboy
I may at one point get the manifold extrude honed and ported, and in that case, it may flow identical to a tubular manifold.
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Aug 28, 2005, 12:40 PM
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I am done with you, judging by your newb. post and ?'s, its obvious you dont have a clue or experience with any turbo but your own stocker, I have personally owned and installed four different turbo kits on my own car including your precious rnr 50 trim. Your lack of knowledge and experience shines brightly, move on to another thread buddy
What a nice cop out, can't come up with proper reasoning, you just flame. Newb my *** I have been an Evo Owner/Tuner since 06/03 and a DSM owner/tuner since the mid 90's
You see what you wrote? Generalities and and flames, sorry buddy you have nothing else to offer.
RNR 50 trim ehhh, makes power but a lil laggy, I have had PLEANTY turbo uypgrades and tuning sessions, you see what happens when you assume to much buddy?
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Aug 28, 2005, 12:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Supernaut
What a nice cop out, can't come up with proper reasoning, you just flame. Newb my *** I have been an Evo Owner/Tuner since 06/03 and a DSM owner/tuner since the mid 90's
You see what you wrote? Generalities and and flames, sorry buddy you have nothing else to offer.
RNR 50 trim ehhh, makes power but a lil laggy, I have had PLEANTY turbo uypgrades and tuning sessions, you see what happens when you assume to much buddy?
You see what you wrote? Generalities and and flames, sorry buddy you have nothing else to offer.
RNR 50 trim ehhh, makes power but a lil laggy, I have had PLEANTY turbo uypgrades and tuning sessions, you see what happens when you assume to much buddy?
Aug 28, 2005, 01:11 PM
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Hey David, are your new turbo kits using a different type of fastener from your older BR500 kits, I know we had some issues with the four manifold bolts getting loose.