honda-guy

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no time to read all 12 pages of post from a bunch of hater. was there any real case of the internal fins actualy came loose? not i hear it from a friend who saw it on a website. i know SSA is not know for their quality but it's pretty hard to mess up an intercooler, the only thing that can really go wrong is fitment or leaks.

lil'evil_evo

iTrader: (17)

have you had any problems with clamps coming loose?

honda-guy

iTrader: (55)

no, but i've only had it on for less than a week. i shouldn't have any problems with the clamps though cause i made sure they were tight and t-bolt clamps are better than regular hose clamps.

SOUTHSIDEITALIA

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I agree! They fixed the top mounting problem with an offset bracket!

honda-guy

iTrader: (55)

mine came with two top bracket, i was like what the heck, so i just used the one that fit best.

deadbeatrec

iTrader: (9)

so is this thing a pos or what?

shivaswrath

iTrader: (9)

you just added an additiional 15lbs to your front end for maybe 15awhp?

That doesn't make much sense to me. . .

honda-guy

iTrader: (55)

why doesn't that make sense?

15whp/300whp = .05 , that's 5% increase in power
15lbs/3000lbs = .005 , that's .5% increase in weight

15lbs is hardly noticeable in a 3000+ lbs car.

wprettyboy

iTrader: (17)

it could be 30lbs for all i care after this weekend. my stock intercooler gave up on me and my car ran like ****, heat soak is not fun..... So its adding 15lbs to be able to use my 359 that i already have!!!

vroomevo

iTrader: (22)

180 bucks...
wow...
please keep us updated.
thanks

KILTERMAN

iTrader: (9)

I read that entire long *** thread about AMS vs. SSAC IC and not one person actually presented conclusive data for or against the Knockoff. Until proven to be equal its crap in my opinion.

honda-guy

iTrader: (55)

i don’t have an AMS intercooler, so i can't do comparison between XSP intercooler and AMS, i can only do comparison between stock and XSP. i'm waiting for the weather to get nice again so i can do some data logging of intake air temp. the weahter is very humid right now because of the hurricane. should be nice again next week and i'll get some data for you guys. haven't even got a change to hook the up wideband yet. i'm leaving for the beach tomorow and wont be back till monday, so i won't get anything done till then.

honda-guy

iTrader: (55)

i finally had some free time to do some data logging with the XSP intercooler.

this is the data with the stock intercooler, outside temp was around 68 deg.
Time, RPM , Timing, Intake Air Temp
9.54 6461.0 16.0 82.0
9.73 6563.0 17.0 82.0
9.93 6668.0 17.0 82.0
10.13 6762.0 17.0 82.0
10.33 6875.0 19.0 81.0
10.52 6969.0 19.0 81.0
10.72 7055.0 18.0 81.0
10.92 7137.0 18.0 81.0
11.12 7203.0 18.0 81.0
11.31 7289.0 18.0 81.0
11.51 7410.0 19.0 81.0
11.71 7457.0 19.0 81.0
11.91 7516.0 19.0 81.0
12.1 7582.0 19.0 81.0

this is the data with the XSP intercooler, outside temp was around 75 deg.
Time, RPM , Timing, Intake Air Temp
5.35 6387.0 16.0 86.0
5.55 6531.0 15.0 86.0
5.75 6648.0 15.0 84.0
5.94 6781.0 16.0 84.0
6.14 6887.0 18.0 84.0
6.34 6996.0 18.0 84.0
6.54 7117.0 18.0 84.0
6.74 7199.0 18.0 84.0
6.93 7305.0 20.0 84.0

humidity was about the same for both days. as you can see, there's only a slight improvement over stock IC, but the margin could be larger if i was running higher boost as the stock intercooler does a pretty good job at close to stock boost. i forgot to log air flow and load before i swap intercooler, so i can't say if they have improve or not.

scherejs

iTrader: (12)

Where in the intake is the air intake temp. measured?

honda-guy

iTrader: (55)

i believe it's on the intake mainifold.