I'm thinking about buying an Evolution IX, but I can't decide whether or not to get the MR or the normal Evo. How is the 6 speed box? Which would be better if I decided to mildly tune the car? Majorly tune it? Apparently the IX has different ratios than the VIII:
"New gear ratios on the models' standard five-speed manual transmission take full advantage of the increased torque to improve the vehicle's already blistering acceleration. This transmission is derived from the Mitsubishi close-ratio competition gearbox but has a modified top gear ratio for improved high-speed cruising. The Lancer Evolution MR features a six-speed close-ratio manual transmission."

Also, will the new variable valve timing make the Evo harder to tune and get power out of? I'm generally really informed on automobile stuff, but I always forget what variable valve timing is for. The EVOs are still cable throttle right?

PS: Thanks in advance for any help anyone may provide.

 

In the VIII's supposedly the 6speed shifter in the MR is weaker than the GSR/RS' 5speed gearbox.

Oh and a random fact, the gearing is just about the same from 1-3rd gear, its 4-6where the MR shines.

 

i've owned both GSR and now MR, i will choose 6 speed any day of the week, and no, the gearing is not the same at all between both the cars

 

5-speed - better for 1/4 mile times

6-speed - better for road racing

 

Ahem... What are you talking about?

 

^People just base opinons on what other people say... Its all about the driver

 

I think he's saying that the five-speed gearbox will be faster on the drag strip for quarter mile times while the MR's six-speed would be better for keeping the car at the optimum RPM on a race track/road course/whatever and would get better lap times than the normal Evo.

 

He's talking about the fact that due to the gearing differences between the two different transmissions, the 5-speed can trap higher without the need to make that extra shift into 5th gear (not an easy shift to do quickly either). It's been discussed on here quite a bit. The search function is your friend.

 

^both are jackass statments

 

Neither of these are true.

 

These statements are too broad and cannot be taken in isolation.

The 6spd is actually faster for cars that trap 110 or less, but after that, the 5spd is better.

For road racing, the closer ratio of the 6spd can help you to be in the powerband at all times on a road course, but at the same time, it can require you to shift more often, which is a definite detractor, so it depends on the course layout, mods, and driver...

 

No, actually the third gear on the MR is 4% shorter, the 4th gear is 7% shorter.
Lets get the fact correct first....

 

How do you figure the 5 speed is better for the 1/4 mile?, unless you modify your car to the point where you need to shift to fifth the MR can do 110MPH in forth very well.

I ran a 13.2@104 from 1st to 2nd to 5th gear. I missed third gear and left my car in fifth all the way to the end. While some people might argue that shifting to 5th gear takes time away the fifth gear on the MR pulls hard.
Remember that it pulled more than two MPH over the RS and GSR on the road course on the straight lines.

A bone stock MR would never tell the difference in the 1/4 mile, there is no disadvantage unless you cross the 1/4 mile line at a certain speed which requires you to shift to fifth gear..

 

Thank you for finally jumping in Warrtalon..

 

I think that the six speed is a bit too quick of gearing. I mean both transmissions have their pros and cons, but I can't say because i've never driven an MR. But I think I like the five speed a bit better. Now, maybe I drive an MR and prefer the MR tranny over the five speed, but god knows. I know the five speed is good for 1/4 mile and definetely not bad for road racing neither. Thats just my two cents on both trannys.