Why pay $80.00+ for a manual boost controller?
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Originally Posted by DynoFlash
I love it - buy a $30,000 car and try to save $30 by buying some cheap *** mbc made from hardwear store part
Trying to be responsible here
The more expensive Forge and Hallman units are CNC machines from solid hunks of metal and anodized or polished to look good
Also - both require no wrench to adjust using click aqdjusters
They do cost a bit more but work much better in my experience
Also - the minor problems which the Forge units expereinced were becuse bits of polsihing compound were clogging the bleed hole - this has since been corrected
Every unit I sell of Forge is pre checked and tested
It is the best working MBC on evos - period
You get what you pay for
Trying to be responsible here
The more expensive Forge and Hallman units are CNC machines from solid hunks of metal and anodized or polished to look good
Also - both require no wrench to adjust using click aqdjusters
They do cost a bit more but work much better in my experience
Also - the minor problems which the Forge units expereinced were becuse bits of polsihing compound were clogging the bleed hole - this has since been corrected
Every unit I sell of Forge is pre checked and tested
It is the best working MBC on evos - period
You get what you pay for
I have the dejon on my car it was $55 and it holds boost extremely well, I can not comment on other products. I can say that some products look better which has nothing to do with the performance of the product and I could car less how fancy my mbc looks.
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If evo owners took that philosophy of "you get what you pay for" on all there upgrade paths your flashes would be non existant as they have been known for been one of the least expensive flashes available.
I have the dejon on my car it was $55 and it holds boost extremely well, I can not comment on other products. I can say that some products look better which has nothing to do with the performance of the product and I could car less how fancy my mbc looks.
I have the dejon on my car it was $55 and it holds boost extremely well, I can not comment on other products. I can say that some products look better which has nothing to do with the performance of the product and I could car less how fancy my mbc looks.
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The forge mbc is a very nice looking and adjustable product. Works great on my evo. However i have used a $10 homemade mbc on my eclipse and it worked just as good, but adjusting it sucked. And ive used the profec b, and it wasnt ever as smooth with the profec as it was with the mbcs.
The forge is very nice to adjust and its clean looking.
The forge is very nice to adjust and its clean looking.
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Originally Posted by saywhen
If evo owners took that philosophy of "you get what you pay for" on all there upgrade paths your flashes would be non existant as they have been known for been one of the least expensive flashes available.
I have the dejon on my car it was $55 and it holds boost extremely well, I can not comment on other products. I can say that some products look better which has nothing to do with the performance of the product and I could car less how fancy my mbc looks.
I have the dejon on my car it was $55 and it holds boost extremely well, I can not comment on other products. I can say that some products look better which has nothing to do with the performance of the product and I could car less how fancy my mbc looks.
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I made this MBC for $8 and used it on my old GTI.
I use a Hallman Pro RX on my evo....
1. I must be a REAL idiot...I can make my own and STILL chose to buy an "overpriced" one for $80!
2. I use the Hallman because it's a high-quality version of what I made. It's not really an earth shattering decision as some people are trying to make it out to be.
3. I also think the Forge piece is very nice.
4. The real idiots are the ones who pay $40-50 for what I made at home depot....
-Gabe
I use a Hallman Pro RX on my evo....
1. I must be a REAL idiot...I can make my own and STILL chose to buy an "overpriced" one for $80!
2. I use the Hallman because it's a high-quality version of what I made. It's not really an earth shattering decision as some people are trying to make it out to be.
3. I also think the Forge piece is very nice.
4. The real idiots are the ones who pay $40-50 for what I made at home depot....
-Gabe
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I use a Hallman and, short of using an adjustable WGA, it's the best boost controller I have ever used.
Order of greatness, as tested by me:
1. HKS Adjustable Wastegate Actuator (Held boost like a champ)
2. Hallman MBC (Greatest BC evAr!)
3. HKS EVC V (complicated but spend some time and it will reward your patience)
4. Blitz SSBC (simple, simple, simple. Turn knob, boost goes up.)
5. Apexi AVC-R (way too diffcult to get right! It would work in one climate but suck in another)
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29. Greddy Profec B Spec-II (sucked ****!)
Order of greatness, as tested by me:
1. HKS Adjustable Wastegate Actuator (Held boost like a champ)
2. Hallman MBC (Greatest BC evAr!)
3. HKS EVC V (complicated but spend some time and it will reward your patience)
4. Blitz SSBC (simple, simple, simple. Turn knob, boost goes up.)
5. Apexi AVC-R (way too diffcult to get right! It would work in one climate but suck in another)
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29. Greddy Profec B Spec-II (sucked ****!)
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I think everybody's essentially saying the same thing. An MBC is a simple component, and it really just comes down to the small differences. For me, looks, material, ease of adjustability, and company reputation made the Forge unit worth the extra 30 bucks over the pieces you pictured.
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I had a home made MBC from "Lowes" cost , $17 I thought it was causing "boost taper" (22-23 peak falling to 21) so I got a....................
New Hallmam MBC $80 and guess what ? It has the same "boost taper" 22ish falling to 21. BUT it looks way better , and it easier to adjust .
If i needed a mbc now i would go with the Froge unit , I like the clicks to know how much you adjusted it up or down .
Just b/c it homemade dosent mean its junk .
New Hallmam MBC $80 and guess what ? It has the same "boost taper" 22ish falling to 21. BUT it looks way better , and it easier to adjust .
If i needed a mbc now i would go with the Froge unit , I like the clicks to know how much you adjusted it up or down .
Just b/c it homemade dosent mean its junk .
Last edited by matt55; Mar 13, 2006 at 01:45 PM.
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Originally Posted by saywhen
If evo owners took that philosophy of "you get what you pay for" on all there upgrade paths your flashes would be non existant as they have been known for been one of the least expensive flashes available.
Watch what you say Al, it always seems to come back and bite you in the ***! Good on you for allowing it to happen
I have a Hallman on my 2g and it has worked great for years. Bought a Forge, because they actually were just slightly cheaper than the Hallman and came with mount brackets vs the old rubber clamp. And it works great as well. I bought them both based on others experiences and the way it looks as well....asthetics are a part of my modding process.
No one has really answered your question here as of yet. I can't either, but tell you that there isn't any real reason why those other MBC won't work for you. So I'd say use them.
As long as you are satisfied with the end result, it doesn't matter if Al puts his foot in his mouth or if someone else is going to tell you the cheaper ones aren't going to work because they said so. If you don't care what something is going to look like, but it serves it's purpose, and serves it well.....go with that product and save your money for something else.
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3000ways, both of the ones you pictured require a wrench to loosen the nut before being able to adjust the MBC knob, which is terribly annoying.
I love my Unos, but I also loved my Hallman Pro. In fact, I kept it as backup in case I ever need it. So far, I haven't needed it, but I've used it to help troubleshoot several other Evos so far. My Hallman is worth every penny. The major advantage of my Unos is the ratcheting knob, which is invaluable. Since they are the same price, I give the Unos the edge.
I love my Unos, but I also loved my Hallman Pro. In fact, I kept it as backup in case I ever need it. So far, I haven't needed it, but I've used it to help troubleshoot several other Evos so far. My Hallman is worth every penny. The major advantage of my Unos is the ratcheting knob, which is invaluable. Since they are the same price, I give the Unos the edge.
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Originally Posted by poormansracecar
I used a $22 air compressor regulator on my Grand National. Had to order a different sping because 1 click was about 2 - 2 1/2 psi.
It is all about choices, obviously if you are in a budget then I can see the point of getting something cheaper but Cmon guys, a MBC is perhaps one of the most important parts in your car, if you are trying to buy something that is garbage be aware you are risking your engine, at least buy something that has been reliable.
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And you have to look at the type of Boost Controller some are Bleed type and others are Ball and spring type, the Ball and spring type will always cost more than the bleed type.