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Old May 2, 2006, 02:29 PM
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I find that stop light to stop light is not really my thing... I find mostly that a roll on happens more often then not because of the fact everyone knows the car is AWD and won't dare mess with it at a red light. LOL I am still up in the air about what turbo I should get... I am leaning towards the 35R also because it is not a combo turbo with parts from all over... I have heard those have a tendency to break.
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Originally Posted by ThEHiTMaN
I find that stop light to stop light is not really my thing... I find mostly that a roll on happens more often then not because of the fact everyone knows the car is AWD and won't dare mess with it at a red light. LOL I am still up in the air about what turbo I should get... I am leaning towards the 35R also because it is not a combo turbo with parts from all over... I have heard those have a tendency to break.
Same here... 90% of my races are from 2nd and 3rd gear roll-ons.
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Originally Posted by WrX Kila
378whp... how much psi was he running? What system did he use to tune his car? You think that the stock turbo will out flow a 3076? Look at all the variables at hand before making your assumption. I made this on a flash! I dont think that the stock turbo can hold 27+psi till redline.
as someone already pointed out, i was talking about tom's car (soon2bevo), who runs 21psi on a reflash, stock turbo, and 93 octane. hence my point why spend all that money to only hit 397, 20whp more than what he has now? and I guarantee you his powerband is a lot better than yours...even tho your topend is going to be better.

I think the fp3065 on meth with a stroker would be an absolutely INSANE and fun setup for the street, obviously a lil more so with the now routine 2.3/35r setup.

I'm think im still going the ams or shearer 50trim route, once i recover from my latest amex bill....

unless that kid who hit full boost by 3700rpm throws up his dyno sheet soon....
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Originally Posted by yellowEVO21
as someone already pointed out, i was talking about tom's car (soon2bevo), who runs 21psi on a reflash, stock turbo, and 93 octane. hence my point why spend all that money to only hit 397, 20whp more than what he has now? and I guarantee you his powerband is a lot better than yours...even tho your topend is going to be better.

I think the fp3065 on meth with a stroker would be an absolutely INSANE and fun setup for the street, obviously a lil more so with the now routine 2.3/35r setup.

I'm think im still going the ams or shearer 50trim route, once i recover from my latest amex bill....

unless that kid who hit full boost by 3700rpm throws up his dyno sheet soon....
I run 22psi actually, with 23-24psi spikes. Im sure he makes more than 20whp on me above 6500rpm.

But James remember, its about supporting mods too. If I had a 3076 kit my car might put down 430whp on pump gas, who knows, which would be much more than a 20whp gain.

However, my powerband is so good, I would never upgrade the turbo to a larger one without high boost, I just think its a waste. Id rather have near 400whp with the stocker and have an insane powerband and response machine or have a 480-500whp 50trim/3076/3065 alcohol'd setup.

Whatever my next turbo it is... methanol will be in the picture... of course... its going to be in the picture this summer on my stock turbo too
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gt35r here ! pump at 22 psi 364 whp afrs at 11.1-11.4
110 oct at 27 psi with same afrs = 441 whp
spool up is not as bad as they say. either they dont have a 35r and a talking out thier bung hole about something they dont know about or they have a sh itty tune or boost leak. my .02
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Originally Posted by Soon2BEVO
I run 22psi actually, with 23-24psi spikes. Im sure he makes more than 20whp on me above 6500rpm.

But James remember, its about supporting mods too. If I had a 3076 kit my car might put down 430whp on pump gas, who knows, which would be much more than a 20whp gain.

However, my powerband is so good, I would never upgrade the turbo to a larger one without high boost, I just think its a waste. Id rather have near 400whp with the stocker and have an insane powerband and response machine or have a 480-500whp 50trim/3076/3065 alcohol'd setup.

Whatever my next turbo it is... methanol will be in the picture... of course... its going to be in the picture this summer on my stock turbo too
You're totally right about the supporting mods...however i just assumed (for the purpose of argument) that he had the same supporting mods as you and then put on the 3076...(although with a low figure of 397whp on a 3076, that was probably a bad assumption), hence my saying that dropping all that money for 20whp wasn't worth it.

and yeah im sure he has a lot of power on you from 6500 on....esp considering your power drops drastically after 7000rpm, or was it 7500? Either way, it was enough to smoke that guy w/ the 50 trim
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I found this on the lotspot.com.
RR Evo w/3065 race gas 28psi vs. RX7 with big turbo vs. Silver Evo20G race gas 28-30psi.
Apparently the Silver evo ran a 11.60 at 120 something.

http://thelotspot.com/videos/billy_evos.wmv
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Hey Turbojunkiw, running a 12.1 @114 MPH on a GT35R is quite wastefull IMHO. You could really up the boost in that sucker, even to 25PSI and atleast get a 120+ MPH trap, if you are only trapping at 114MPH with a GT35R that is not good, I do that with my Stock turbo on Pump gas.

I think I am swayed towards the FP 3065 as I think it is a better street turbo and will give me the WHP I want.
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Originally Posted by High_PSI
Hey Turbojunkiw, running a 12.1 @114 MPH on a GT35R is quite wastefull IMHO. You could really up the boost in that sucker, even to 25PSI and atleast get a 120+ MPH trap, if you are only trapping at 114MPH with a GT35R that is not good, I do that with my Stock turbo on Pump gas.

I think I am swayed towards the FP 3065 as I think it is a better street turbo and will give me the WHP I want.
i agree that 12.1 at 114 on gt35r is lame. that was done on the stocker and 23 psi with 110 oct. currently ive bested a 11.89 @ 120.8 at 26 psi and 110 oct. not so lame IMHO . no scanner but here is the break down
rt .112
60 1.71
1/8 7.61 @ 90 mph ( still not impressed. need to work on that 1-2 shift)
1/4 11.89 @ 120.8
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Originally Posted by evoviiiyou
I found this on the lotspot.com.
RR Evo w/3065 race gas 28psi vs. RX7 with big turbo vs. Silver Evo20G race gas 28-30psi.
Apparently the Silver evo ran a 11.60 at 120 something.

http://thelotspot.com/videos/billy_evos.wmv
Wow,

now I understand when they say "Go big or go home"
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/\ my thoughts exactly...
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yellow evo... here's the difference between a big turbo and a stock upgrade.http://thelotspot.com/videos/billy_evos.wmv
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Originally Posted by WrX Kila
yellow evo... here's the difference between a big turbo and a stock upgrade.http://thelotspot.com/videos/billy_evos.wmv
Great Vid! Hope it lasts.
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Originally Posted by WrX Kila
yellow evo... here's the difference between a big turbo and a stock upgrade.http://thelotspot.com/videos/billy_evos.wmv
THats not exactly the best represenation but overall does show just how fast tue big turbo can be. That was not a GT30 EVO, Im pretty sure it was a FP3065 which is a GT35R with 30 Turbine wheel, nonetheless, its a 600whp turbp. Also, that red EVO is built top to bottom and of course on leaded fuel (I think the 20G was too). Didnt that red EVO put down 600whp?
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Originally Posted by WrX Kila
Consider a 3076r also. Nice turbo. So far with a conservative tune on pump, I made 397whp on 23psi. I have a .82 back housing although I dont have a AEM ecu to log spool up , I think it on about 4500rpm. I am getting my Meth kit in a couple of weeks. Oh Yeah I am running a Flash!
WrX Kila.

I'm pretty much stuck in a bump in the road as far as turbo upgrading is concerned. I see that you're running the GT3076R which is one of the turbo candidates I have in mind. I've considered the BR 20G-9 as well. The GT35R turbo upgrade is completely out of the question for me. I've read throughout the forum on each of these turbos.

I've seen the stock turbo make between 320-390whp and 300-400wtq.

I've seen the BR 20G-9 make between 320-400whp and 290-370wtq.

I've seen the BR GT3076R make between 400-475whp and 360-420wtq.

I'm looking for the most aggressive feeling 375-425whp / 375-425wtq combination using one of these turbos. I plan on running 93 octane and alcohol with an occasional trip to the 1320.

What do you think?


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